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I have built one of these in the early 90's powered by a Super Tigre 90. Absolutely fantastic aerobatic plane that will do any maneuver you can think of. Have the Extreme Flight version that is not exactly scale but flies well. This flies better. You will not be disappointed if you build one.
Tom Zink : Laser 200 : 24/06/2024

Completed Nacard photo here: http://www.thebuildingboard.com/2011/03/canard-glider.html
Tom : Nacard : 23/06/2024

I really like this! A slightly larger electric version would make a great R/C park flyer. Definitely on my build list!
Phil Bernhardt : Baby Dumpling : 23/06/2024

Thank you for the input, Doug.
Craig
Craig Diederich : James Wot : 23/06/2024

Have corrected the date on this plan now, turns out it was in Modelar, Sept 1972.
SteveWMD : Spitfire XIV : 23/06/2024

Hello Mary, hello Steve, I am sending you another picture [pic 006] and a link to a short video clip of my Graupner Ultra-Fly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bIY2SmZo5w
Best regards,
Bernhard Dittmann : Ultra-Fly : 23/06/2024

Hello, Attached are some photos [main pic, 006] you can use on your webpage. Thanks,
John Bergsmith : Parakeet : 23/06/2024

Hello, Just wanted to send you a few pictures [main pic, 005, 006] of a completed Super Esquire you could use for your outstanding website. Thanks,
John Bergsmith : Super Esquire : 23/06/2024

Hi Mary, To add to my Mills powered Veron Bee Bug I have made a scaled down version of the Bee Bug for a Cox Tee Dee .020 that I have called a Wee Bug [pics 021-025]. I recently flew the model and am pleased to report it flew well. Here are a few photos. The Wee Bug has a span of 18” and flys on 25’ using 15lb spider wire for control lines.
John Lewis : Bee Bug : 23/06/2024

Good Morning Mary, Please find the following photos of oz5372 RA Parker’s Celeste from 1947 [main pic, 003]. Jim Sneed is my building partner on this project. Jim completed his first and it is truly a Fabulous Performer. Jim is departing today to compete in the first SAM WC in Hungary, and suspect he will put in some Great Flights. Looking at the drawing one immediately can see that this model is a very small modification to make it a natural Electro launched machine. This model is scaled to 200% scale and has a truly lovely personality. For others, considering a build, they would be advised to increase the Verticle size by 20%, and double the tip Dihedral of the Wing. I have never seen another reference to this design, and wonder if this is the first one to feel air under its wings, in 77 years. Thank you for all you do. Larry
Larry Jolly : Celeste : 23/06/2024

I'm guessing the inspiration was the McCann-ard 27 (oz4833) from Aeromodeller March 1963. Funny though, I also would have guesssed that one was by JD McHard.
Still, that would just make it the Nacard McCann Canard :)
SteveWMD : Nacard : 23/06/2024

As I recall, the original .010 Aeromodeller version was designed by Doug McHard.
So this is the Nacard McHard Canard, brilliant haha
Charles : Nacard : 23/06/2024

the c of g from were the wings join at the back it measures into the wing around 6.5 cm is what mine flys ok at that
ian raw : Ionosphere : 22/06/2024

tnw Not true. The early Mk XIV's had the standard wing shape but due to some problems all F and FR Mk XIVs were refitted with clipped wings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine...
pmw : Spitfire XIV : 22/06/2024

It's not an absolute thing--depending on the date and the aircraft mission, both styles of wingtip were used on XIVs. They came from the factory with the "pointy"/rounded wingtip, but many were converted to a shorter wingspan, with a spar modification among other changes. You have to pick a snapshot in time, with the available documention, to model a specific aircraft.
D A : Spitfire XIV : 22/06/2024

The mark XIV had clipped end wings, not the rounded tips as in this plan.
tnw : Spitfire XIV : 22/06/2024

Best scale documentation to the D.520 at a reasonable price comes from Poland. Bibliographical data:
Kagero Top drawings no. 104
Marek Rys, Dewoitine D.520
Lublin 2020
ISBN 978-83-66148-98-7
Kagero Publishing
ul. Akacjowa 100, os. Borek,
Turka
20-258 Lublin 62
Poland
phone/fax +48 81 501 21 05
Has scale drawings at 1/72 and 1/48, some colour profiles and contains even the trainer variant D.520 DC.
It's a Polish-English publication.
Robert Schlickewitz : Dewoitine D.520 : 22/06/2024

I built this from the plan and it flies great as a slope soarer. The plan is fairly easy to follow. For some reason there's a lot of haters out there who are very vocal and seem determined to undermine Mr Bale and and the Horten designs. Ignore them.
Oliver Thatcher : Horten Ho-IX : 22/06/2024

Believe it or not, but it's now June 2024, and I AM Chas Taylor. I'm now 95 years old, and sadly have had to give up Team-Racing! I still, however, have my last Class B Racer hanging up on the wall in the loft, my workroom where my dear departed wife Hilary and our three sons Michael, Philip & David helped us produce over a million Taylor Glowplugs. Aaahh! Happy days.
Chas Taylor. : Tantivvy : 21/06/2024

The measurements of the wing ribs that are drawn in the supplement are wrong.
Joaquim : Lo Stregone : 21/06/2024

For any of you wanting to attempt this project, the plan sheets are pretty large, in my opinion too large to print in tiles and paste them together. I have some experience doing this and the errors creep in with larger sheets. Any blueprint place can print them full size, but there is a problem. The place where I get mine printed can only print 36" maximum width. Each of these prints is 68" x 36". That means you have to ROTATE the file to print it properly on a 36" printer. The other dimension doesn't matter because the printer pulls paper off a roll. If you don't tell them to rotate, they will just send it to the printer and it will reduce the size to fit the printer capacity. Ask me how I know. If they can't rotate it for you, let me know and I'll rotate it and send you the new file. Doug Smith, duckwork@bellsouth.net
doug smith : Fun Scale Spitfire : 21/06/2024

Hi Mary and Steve. I built Bill Effinger's Berkeley 58" Brigadier model from plan oz238 on your website [main pic, 009-012]. I built the model as an RC powered by an OS Max 15 2.5cc internal combustion engine. It is beautiful and comfortable to fly with. Again, a big and sincere thank you for your work and I wish you both good health.
Vladimir Caha : Brigadier : 21/06/2024

Some Y-6 photos [pics 004-006]. This was a fun build. From Rockford Illinois,
Donavan Dailing : Why-6 : 20/06/2024

Hi, Following on from my comment regarding the undercarriage and CG position being too far back, here is a picture [pic 006] of the DVC kit plan which looks to be a more recent version of the Ziroli plan (I am sure Nick Ziroli is the designer of kit plan). (my plan is in poor shape now btw) It shows the undercarriage moved forward, but retains the rearward CG position.
cheers!
Jim : Stearman PT-17 : 20/06/2024

Hi Mary and Steve, hope you are both fit and well. Please find attached some photos a flying colleague sent me of my Super 60 in flight [pics 017-019] from October 2023. My Super 60 still gets regular outings, and apart from replacing the servos with newer digital ones recently, the airframe is still going strong after 170 or so logged flights.
They are a little grainy, but I've sent them as I noticed there are very few photos of models in flight - I believe these give a nice impression of the Super 60 in its 'natural element'. I would still recommend it as a vintage style trainer to anyone who enjoys traditional model building.
Nick Ward : Super 60 : 20/06/2024

Hello again. Last year I wanted to make a model especially for our friend Roger. He loves humour so I decided to build the Jimmy Allen "Yellow Jacket" oz6062 for him, but altering it enough so I could call it "Jolly Roger" for obvious reasons [pics 006-011]. He loves it. I also made another Yellow Jacket for myself, only slightly altering the strange cockpit area to my own liking. I left one of the cockpits off Roger's model. Both still not flown although they are perfectly able to. They are covered in Airspan and doped with other film trim, can't remember exactly which ones! I wish I'd kept "Jolly Roger" I prefer it.
Thanks again for all your work,
John & Kath.
John French : Jimmie Allen Yellow Jacket : 20/06/2024

Pit, Pilgrim, RogerB, Thank you for getting all this together. I never imagined that this would happen so quickly or at all.
Gary : Heinkel He 100D : 20/06/2024

Set back to complete now, thanks to Pit, Pilgrim, RogerB :)
SteveWMD : Heinkel He 100D : 20/06/2024

Hello, take a look at "Ultra Fly" , it ist the single engine version...I would use a BL-engine with 2-3 Lipos and a 12x6" inch prop...
Reinhard Lehmann : Hi-Fly : 19/06/2024

It seems the instructions file we have here is incomplete, at only 18 pages. Does anyone out there have the full manual? Thanks
SteveWMD : AcroPro : 19/06/2024

Hello Mary, hello Steve! Here comes another post. The long life of the “Mini-Bell” from Peck-Polymers. Or from a free flight model to an RC model:
The “Mini Bell” model was created from a US kit from “Peck-Polymers” at the end of the 1970s. Today, the almost 50-year-old model would be called a "Parkflyer". The “Mini-Bell” is a real mini model with a wingspan of 620 mm, a length of 470 mm and a weight of approx. 235 grams.
In the first version, the model was powered by a CO2 engine [pic 004]. The second drive variant was a 0.33 cc COX engine [pic 005] and the third variant then received a small electric drive [pic 006].
After around 45 years, the model is still in its original condition apart from the different drive variants, new RC components and the associated modifications and still flies well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WSLJtZy1q8
Best regards,
Bernhard Dittmann : Mini Bell : 19/06/2024

Hello Mary, hello Steve, here is my Primus from Carrera [pics 005, 006]. He is still active. The glider model has a wingspan of 2.60 m and good flight characteristics. It is still in its original condition. I only replaced the old RC components and the old electric drive.
Best regards,
Bernhard Dittmann : Primus : 19/06/2024

Hello Steve and Mary, please find the photos of Sympa 40 in the attachment [main pic, 006]. The model was built by my friend Petr from your plans. It is built from blue-foam and electrified. It flies very well! Greetings from the Czech Republic.
Jan Crha : Sympa 40 : 19/06/2024

Hi Mary, Following my Cloud Elf input… Interesting that the very attractive Golden Eagle was apparently also available from Cloud, in the UK, but seemingly no mention of its Comet / U.S. origins in their advert [pic 004]. Best regards,
Charlie
Charlie Jeffreys : Golden Eagle : 19/06/2024

Alan Hunter has built a superb Scarab [main pic] ...I've checked with him and he's happy for his photo to be included.
Bryan : Scarab : 19/06/2024

Hi, I also built one of these from the kit in 1963 or 64, in England. I can't remember it flying tho (which usually meant disaster on first or second flight attempts, I didn't know much about trimming back then...). I remember it seeming to be really big in my mums garden shed and would my DC 1cc diesel be enough power (I found another kit on ebay a few years back and the instructions emphasise not to overpower it). I still have a bit of the tailpipe, which has a Meccano standard wheel (steel) stuck in it for tail weight!
Jim : Aggressor : 18/06/2024

Fair point. Have set this as incomplete now. Thanks.
SteveWMD : Heinkel He 100D : 18/06/2024

I wish to build the Hi Fly model with nose single motor what motor is suitable for this model and what prop 6x4 is ok?
Sanjay Pagare : Hi-Fly : 18/06/2024

Am I missing something? Says formers complete, but I don't see stations 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8.
Gary : Heinkel He 100D : 18/06/2024

Nicely done!
Gerry de Groot : Wee Champion : 18/06/2024

Hi, I am building an old Davey Systems Corp kit of the Stearman 75 (PT-17) and was surprised to discover that it's basically the same as this plan! Maybe Nick worked with DSC in producing their kit? The differences are minor and suggest the kit plan is an update. My plan is in poor shape but I will send a pic to show an important change - the position of the undercarriage. The undercarriage is moved forward about 1/2"" and looks to be more scale and similar to the other PT-17 plans that you have. Perusing those other plans on oz reveal that the CG is forward by 1/2" or more compared to this plan and my kit. The CG on the other (rc) plans is at the leading edge of the lower wing or a bit more forward. On fullsize planes the CG is usually close to the main undercarriage position so that makes sense. Anyway I suggest any builders to consider moving the undercarriage forward, and definitely start with the CG nose heavy. My kit plane incidentally is looking to balance on the leading edge of the lower wing with my old Enya 60 4stroke; so that's going to be safe!
Jim : Stearman PT-17 : 17/06/2024

Hello again Steve, Please find attached a few photographs of my friend Barry’s DH Dragon, built from the Peter Lewis 48” span plans on Outerzone [main pic, 007-011].
Barry has built the model to 52% of the original’s size for a 25” span version. He’s also incorporated ailerons on the bottom wing only. The cowls and nacelles are vacformed, as is the cockpit enclosure. Another modification from the plan is that the top wing is built in two panels and attached to the cabin top, as opposed to having a centre section and removable wings. At this size, the model is more easily built in one piece without being difficult to transport.
It’s covered in Doculam and painted with silver alloy wheel spray paint from a rattle can. The colour trim is from home printed decals. The scheme is one worn by a Dragon used to pioneer air transport in the Highlands and Islands of Scotland, which is where Barry hails from. The full-sized machine is still airworthy and resplendent in the colour scheme worn here.
All up weight is 129 grams, it uses Happymodel EX1103S 8000KV 3.8g brushless motors turning 4 1/4” propellers, one clockwise, the other counter clockwise to eliminate torque. Barry turned his own propeller adapters and spinners from aluminium. The system uses a 1S battery and each motor has a Walkera brushless helicopter ESC and the receiver is a Crossover RX42E. Servos are 3 grams with four being used.
Barry reports that the model flies very well and only needs around 35% power for scale-like flight, he’s limited the power to 70% on his transmitter and says that if full power is used, the model can loop and roll easily.
I hope these can be used to further illustrate the plan and inspire other modellers to have a go at this lovely design. All the best,
Pete Theobald : DH84 Dragon : 17/06/2024

Hi, Here’s my photo of Stan Ford with his Cloud Elf, taken at Chobham Common in 1978 [pic 005]. Stan built it from a kit in 1939 and rebuilt it at some stage after it flew into a hangar at Wroughton. This original model was apparently used as the basis of at least one, perhaps 2 recreations of the plan including the OFW (Peter) Fisher version.
Stan indicated in February 1992 [pic 008] that he was somewhat embarrassed by controversy over the authenticity of his model; or at least a drawing made from it and used by Tony Penhall, whose model [pic 006] was seemingly criticised [pic 007] by Alex Imrie in Oct ‘91 AeroModeller: “I see my Cloud Elf is still causing controversy over various points. Some have doubted its authenticity but as my drawing sent to Alan Wicks was drawn up from my 1939 model…”
Best regards,
Charlie Jeffreys : Cloud Elf : 17/06/2024

Hi Gerry, The prop shaft bearing you see is a plastic one from an old Guillow's kit with another bearing improvised from plastic scrap in the back of the nose block.
Andrew : Wee Champion : 17/06/2024

Hay, some photos of the model. Builder Petr Hruby from the Czech Republic, Brown Junior engine. See flight video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd7OCHt0Tas
Martin Kreslado : Miss Delaware : 17/06/2024

Hi Steve & Mary, Here's a pic of my Dolfin (and a much younger me!) [pic 005]. Regards,
Peter Scott : Dolphin : 17/06/2024

Hi Steve and Mary, A few pictures of my Southerner [main pic, 008, 009]. Built as "model of the meet" for Cowra Oily Hand Days 2022. Unfortunately I caught Covid and could not attend, but the Southerner finally made it in 2023. Tissue over docalum finish with PAW 19TBR RC. It's a really nice smooth flyer, with nice loops and barrel rolls. The glide is sensational, as you would expect. Regards,
Warren Brown : Southerner : 17/06/2024

I have a Ben Buckle kit
Charles : Southerner Mite : 17/06/2024

Hi....do you know if anyone sells a kit for the Southerner Mite? --Thanks, Eric
Eric Schilling : Southerner Mite : 16/06/2024

Would anyone happen to know the control surface throws so i can set them with my gauge as per design? I have some set of my own but I do not know how truly affective they really are. It flys well otherwise. Thank you.
MATTHEW HEPLER : Big Bingo : 16/06/2024

I have the original magazine which I bought with my own pocket money way back when ! And I have an original plan which I've been wanting to build for yrs ! I too have looked at that thin tapered trailing edge and tapered spars and delayed even starting this build but I think we sometimes doubt our abilities so this autumn I'm going to just get on and build it , failing to try is worse than trying and learning or something like that! I have considered hot wire cutting a foam trailing edge and using modern glass which would also be a first for me .
I hope to lay out the plans soon and crack on with it.
Chris : James Wot : 16/06/2024

Andrew, Re your model pics: what is the prop shaft mounting/bearing you have used? Is it a commercial unit?
Gerry
Gerry de Groot : Wee Champion : 16/06/2024

This plan seems to be undersized. I printed it and it came up to 33" WS when flat.
Brooke Linford : Geef 250 : 15/06/2024

A tapered wing with undercamber, not an easy project. The extremely thin trailing edge won't be easy, better to carve it to shape before assembly. The trailing edge will have to be shimmed up to maintain proper undercamber while pinned to the board. Spars are also tapered toward the tip. I would make them from spruce and be sure to install the shear webs for strength. I don't like the music wire joiners, but would use a more conventional plywood wing dihedral brace to have a one piece wing, delete the spar doublers, spruce spars will be strong enough. Install the top spars with wing pinned to the board, then turn it over for the bottom spars. The trailing edge has slots for the ribs, which you can make with a sanding block with the same thickness as the ribs. It ain't gonna be easy but it's doable, will make a beautiful model with more modern electric power. Should outclimb the buzzards.
doug smith : James Wot : 15/06/2024

I came across this intriguing design, the James WOT e-sailplane. As I have studied the plan, I am struggling to understand how the wing is assembled with the significant under camber that it has. The designer makes no mention as to how the wing must be jigged to keep parts in line and account for the under camber. Making use of an Adjust-o-jig is about all that comes to mind. Any other ideas?
Craig : James Wot : 15/06/2024

The "OZ1298" plan that Mr. James Hickman mentioned here is this fun design by Dennis Norman: Mosquito IV (oz1298)
I fondly remember an 11 years' young lil' old me ogling this interesting feature article in the pages of Model Airplane News, apparently it was December 1966. Mind you, it was far beyond my reach to take on such a project, but boy did that plane ever look cool! Great-looking lines and paint job. And the gizmo driving those two propellers was a WOW!
Decades later I was to meet my Mosquito drive-train hero Mr. Dennis Norman at the Flying Aces Club Nats events at Geneseo, New York during the 1990s. No Mosquito there, no unusual drive trains seen, but on view was his innovative use of Chart Pak markers for transferring lines and markings onto tissue, as found in his new line of AIR ACES plans and kits. His enthusiasm and creative flair was quite unique.
John Rood : Short Stirling : 15/06/2024

G'day Steve and Mary. I built a Mercury Aggressor from an original kit about thirty years ago. A very stable model, my Mills .75 powered example came second in the Night Scramble event at an Australian Nationals.
Now I can build another one thanks to your newly published plan.
Danny M2Z : Aggressor : 15/06/2024

I built the Pegasus in 1966. Purchased from Aerobras. Glider that flies with majesty. Beautiful flight. The first flight he took I lost him in the coffee plantation. I only managed to recover it ten days later. I thank OUTERZONE for making the plans available. I'm going to build another one to satisfy the nostalgia.
Joaquim : Pegasus : 14/06/2024

More good news - the fin was with the fuselage, so the model is now complete and in the collection at BMFA Buckminster. One of the members of the Bucky Power Strugglers Whats App group even found a photo of it with Stan Ford. I'll ask him to submit it.
David Hill : Cloud Elf : 14/06/2024

Got it, have set the date here to 1956 now, thanks.
SteveWMD : Aggressor : 14/06/2024

I found the earliest advertisement for the Mercury Agressor kit on page 330 of the June 1956 issue of Aeromodeller, in the Arthur Mullet ad.
JMP_blackfoot : Aggressor : 14/06/2024

hi, a link about this glider : https://www.j2mcl-planeurs.net/dbj2mcl/planeurs-machines/planeur-fiche_0int.php?code=475
best regards,
Olivier : Delanne 190 : 14/06/2024

Doh, yes. My mistake. Hang on, will get that sorted out... ok, done now. Many thanks :)
SteveWMD : Aggressor : 14/06/2024

Hi Steve, I think you've missed the parts sheets for this one, I've resent them to you. Cheers,
Dilwyn : Aggressor : 14/06/2024

Hello, sorry, I am looking for the missing pages , I simply forget to scan them....
Reinhard : Mosquito : 13/06/2024

I built the .25 version, 50in - 54in wingspan, can't remember exactly what. I built it as a nosewheeler, and it flew off a dirt track. The frame was tough, Miguel-proof tough! I can't remember any vices, it was very apt at decreasing speed thanks to the large amount of built-in drag. Nice trainer, nothing bad to say.
Miguel : Stick 40 Trainer : 13/06/2024

Yes, sorry, a mismatch with the german plan publication date.
pit : Marabu III : 13/06/2024

I possibly thought it would be more productive to have it built as an old fashioned towline glider. Any comments welcome:)
Keith : Short Stirling : 13/06/2024

This brought back a lot of memories. I can't even guess how many hours myself and a buddy of mine spent flying the Voodoo. Lots of fun! Thanks!!!
Mark David : Voodoo : 13/06/2024

I built one of these from a Balsa USA kit years ago. If built as tail dragger, per these plans, on pavement it will not take off. As soon as any amount of power is applied, it starts ground looping, adding a steerable tail-wheel won't help. If you take off from grass, you have to add power gradually, otherwise it will ground loop. If you build this model, build it as a tricycle gear.
Claude G. Vest : Stick 40 Trainer : 13/06/2024

Photos of the Skiptown Cadet [pics 008-010]. Thanks for the fabulous service you provide!
Benjamin Strauss : Skiptown Cadet : 13/06/2024

Hi Mary and Steve, I am sending photos of the completed Eagle MkI glider model from Hearns Hobbies [main pic, 005-007]. I built the model according to the plan downloaded from your website. I modified the construction of the model to use RC control.
Many thanks for your work. Greetings from the Czech Republic,
Vladimir Caha : Eagle I : 13/06/2024

My Q-Tee model [pic 041].
Paulo Bahamondes : Q-Tee : 13/06/2024

Photo of my Mini Playboy [pic 003].
Paulo Bahamondes : Mini Playboy : 13/06/2024

Hi Pit… Corsica was in 1967!
Pascal Rodesch : Marabu III : 13/06/2024

In the German instructions, pages 6 and 7 are missing - thanks to Karl for pointing this out - if anyone can send those two pages in, that would be great.
SteveWMD : Mosquito : 12/06/2024

forgotten from my last message:
Marabu mk2 was 1st classified in 1969 Germany FAI Pattern rc Championship in Bremen.
pit : Marabu III : 12/06/2024

Marabu (or Marabu 1) was classified 8th place in 1968 Corsica 5th World FAI Pattern rc Championship. Plan was published on 1968 April Modell german magazine too. Marabu mk3 was 3rd classified in 1971 USA World FAI Pattern rc Championship. Giezendanner designed a "Marabu trainer" that looks a trike sport shoulder wing model with probably wing and tailplane of original Marabu.
pit : Marabu III : 12/06/2024

Ah no, wait. That RCME plan was the original Marabu, right? The Marabu Mk I, so to speak? I guess so. So that would definitely be a new listing.
SteveWMD : Marabu III : 12/06/2024

Turns out this plan also appeared in RCME, January 1970. I have that article here now, thanks to JeffGreen. So I wonder if anyone out there has that version of the plan? If so, we could split this into two listings, maybe. Looks like that version of the plan could save everyone a lot of drafting/enlarging work :)
SteveWMD : Marabu III : 12/06/2024

Hi, Sending over my rendition of P. Miller's 'LS Special' [main pic]. Kind regards,
Matt Carlton : LS Special : 12/06/2024

Highly recommend having a go at this one. Mine is electric with a Overlander 2836/08 1050 Kv. 3S 1600 Lipo, APC 8x6. 190W @ 16A for an AUW of 22oz. Goes like the clappers but smooth, predictable and an absolute blast.
Matt : LS Special : 12/06/2024

From Italy I continued with the International Money Order and long queue at the Post Office until 2005 for ordering plans and parts from USA. I remember the time spent on enlarging by hand plans from mags. In the middle of the 60' my father bought an "Epidiascope" or "opaque projector" to enlarge, project and redraw on the wall the mags drawings. But it was nothing more than a toy and the lens suffer from evident distortion. Good old models, good old days...
Pit : Marabu III : 12/06/2024

"... in prehistoric days before internet..." Yes, Doug, now imagine doing all the same effort from a little backwater country. Fax was a great invention back in the '80s, before that it had to be by letter or nothing :)
I concur with the rest of your comment. Scaling mag plans up was how I learnt how to draught (or draft) properly, which was a professional asset later on. The same for CAD skills even later :)
Air modelling need not be a money sink only, it may well be a school for life.
Miguel : Marabu III : 11/06/2024

If you really want to build this model, the plans are good enough, much better than most plans printed in the magazine. Many years ago, in prehistoric days before internet, it was a lot of trouble to order full size plans. No credit cards, no internet, even long distance phone service was a hassle. I had to go to the post office for a money order, send it off by mail and wait weeks for plans to arrive. I would scale up the magazine plans using a pair of proportional dividers. the magazines made it easy by reducing the size by a fixed amount, maybe 2 to 1 or 3 to one or whatever. I would set the dividers to whatever scale I needed and one side would be the small dimension and the other would be full size. Worked for me then and it will work now. Just print it out from the small size and figure out what size it needs to be to match the specified 66" wingspan. Then print it to that size. Yes the lines will be thicker but not excessive. Be real careful with the tapered ribs, errors will creep in. Ask me how I know. Again, if you REALLLLLY want this airplane, you can do it.
doug smith : Marabu III : 11/06/2024

Thank you Jan Novick!
Ramses de Looff : Sopwith Triplane : 11/06/2024

Thank you Alexandre!
Ramses de Loof : Dornier Wal : 11/06/2024

I have found the wing and tailplane (less fin) for the Stan Ford built Cloud Elf. These will be handed over to the BMFA in addition to the fuselage handed over previously. The wing had details of when built (1939), recovered, and additional information on the underside of the centre section. Structure is hidden by the covering, but it is apparent that there are some differences from modern plans. The tailplane is uncovered and has a very different structure. Attached photos of both [003, 004].
David Hill : Cloud Elf : 11/06/2024

Hi, I was just scanning some old pictures and came across this picture of the C 3605 Schlepp [main pic]. It is a rubber powered model designed and built by a friend about about 20 years ago... thought you might like to use it.
Peter Miller : C-3605 Schlepp : 11/06/2024

See for instance Jack Headley 36" span plan [oz9882] for alternative wing & stab
KvdB : Bonzo : 11/06/2024

when was the wagtail first released , many thanks, l plan to build this next with a 1500 span with aileron controls.
mark irwing : Wagtail : 11/06/2024

What a beautiful plane, amazing job!
Alexandre : Dornier Wal : 11/06/2024

Southerner 60 photos [pics 004, 005]
Philip Baker : Southerner 60 : 10/06/2024

Dear Steve and Mary, Here is a shot of a slightly modified Spanish Fly with a dihedral break in each wing, flying in a park near Madrid. You will see that the V fuselage and the skeg fin have been retained.
Bill Dixon : Spanish Fly : 10/06/2024

Built the kit and a Heathkit 3-channel RC system (Transmitter, receiver and 3 servos) to go with it in the mid-70's. Maiden flight in 1977 powered by an Enya .15 cu.in engine. Built a copy in 2018, scratch built from plans ( AMA plan service), powered by a .19 cu.in Enya (probably from the 80's, new in box when I got it). Brings back lots of memories and still great fun decades later.
Eric Mathisen : MEN Trainer : 09/06/2024

Hi Steve and Mary, Some photos of my Dornier Wal for your website [main pic, 006-012]. Best regards,
Ramses de Looff : Dornier Wal : 09/06/2024

Playboy Senior [pic 013].
Dieter Fritsche : Playboy Senior : 09/06/2024

Some photos of my Strolch model [main pic, 009].
Dieter Fritsche : Strolch : 09/06/2024

Photos of my Powerhouse [pics 014, 015].
Dieter Fritsche : Powerhouse : 09/06/2024

It uses the Midwest foam wing and stab. You can google that, and the first result is this RCGroups page rcgroups.com/forums/showthre… with some useful drawings. Of course that stab will not be the right scale shape for the Bonzo. Not sure what you're really asking for. You want dimensions of a stab that would fit the scale look of the Bonzo, or dimensions of the actual Midwest foam stab?
SteveWMD : Bonzo : 08/06/2024

Does anyone have dimensions for tailplane? There's several of these designs which are missing tailplane.
Phil Fowler : Bonzo : 08/06/2024

This was my first "big" model, which I built at the age of 13 from the Aeromodeller plan in 1961 [pic 005]. I flew it in club A/2 contests. Strong, simple glider, but I found it needed a CG forward of the recommended position to avoid spins to the ground. The dihedral braces can also be beefed up, as can the attachment of the underslung fin to the fuselage.
Stefan Mochnacki : Corsair : 08/06/2024

Hi, Attached are a few pictures of my VERON Tiger Moth for your website [mainpic, 004-008]. Best regards,
Ramses de Looff : Tiger Moth : 08/06/2024

My QB-15, from Oz plans [main pic, 010].
Paulo Bahamondes : QB 15H II : 08/06/2024

Some photos of my model Coin Foo, from Oz plans [main pic, 013]. From Chile,
Paulo Bahamondes : Coin-Foo : 08/06/2024

Seeing the Alert today in your column, I thought I'd send you a couple of shots [pics 003, 004]of the reduced size Half-A version I made many years ago in the early 1990s. That's our son Anthony holding it at an Old Timer competition when we came 1st and 2nd with it at Cow Pat field in Dayboro, Queensland. You may ask why the venue is called "Cow Pat Field!"
By the way, I came second, Anthony was the winner.
Cheers for now,
John French : Alert : 08/06/2024

Hi, Attached are a few pictures of my VERON Chipmunk for your website [main pic, 006-009]. Best regards,
Ramses de Looff : Chipmunk : 08/06/2024

Kakadu (oz1046) with AP.061 [main pic, 008].
Dieter Fritsche : Kakadu : 08/06/2024

Photos of Me109E (oz14111) with 2,5 cc OS [main pic, 003].
Dieter Fritsche : Me 109E : 08/06/2024

Here is my Svenson Bristol Scout (oz13476) with Enya 60-4C [main pic, 007]
Dieter Fritsche : Bristol Scout C : 08/06/2024

A photo of my Graupner Mini Viper [main pic].
Dieter Fritsche : Mini Viper : 08/06/2024

Can anyone put a date to this one? Thanks
SteveWMD : Spitfire XII : 08/06/2024

Hello. That's right, it's a Junior 2ccm. With 6 cc of fuel and good thermals, it doesn't want to go down. The start from the ground and from the hand is comfortable. I built another one.
Aletr SVK : Alert : 07/06/2024

Absolutely beautiful job!
Jan Novick : Sopwith Triplane : 07/06/2024

Terrific work! Really nice model.
Jan Novick : Fokker D8 : 07/06/2024

Very nice work.
SteveWMD : Nord NC-853S : 07/06/2024

Lovely work. I think Mondrian would approve!
Mary : Felix : 07/06/2024

Hi, Attached are a few pictures of my VERON Hurricane (oz768) for your website [main pic, 003-007]. Best regards,
Ramses de Looff : Hurricane : 07/06/2024

Hi, Attached are a few pictures of my VERON Triplane for your website [main pic, 011-015]. Best regards,
Ramses de Looff : Sopwith Triplane : 07/06/2024

Hi Mary & Steve, Attached is a picture of my son holding a Boomerang that I built years ago [pic 005]. Unfortunately it flew too fast for me so I sold it before I broke it. Hope you can use the photo. Regards,
Graham : Boomerang : 07/06/2024

Photos of my Chilton DW1 [main pic, 003-009].
Ignacio Gil : Chilton DW1 : 06/06/2024

Some photos of my Nord NC-853S [main pic, 003-007].
Ignacio Gil : Nord NC-853S : 06/06/2024

Hi all After my “Dupli Star (Supra Star 60)” and “Desire 60” projects, here is my “XLT 60” I’ve just finished [main pic, 010-013]. The framework was built by a good friend, Bamdad Ehterami.
It is powered with Super Tiger X 61 rear exhaust and Novarossi pipe, Webra 3 glow plug, Omega 5% fuel and Thunder Tiger 11.5x10.2 prop (11700 rpm). Great flying machine. Regards,
Ehsan Morshedi : XLT : 06/06/2024

Mach Mini with AP.061 [main pic]. Best regards,
Dieter Fritsche : Mach Mini : 06/06/2024

My half-size Graupner Topsy [pics 031-033] with a small BL-motor.
Dieter Fritsche : Topsy : 06/06/2024

A photo of my Ridge Runt [pic 020] converted for e-flight with a Graupner Speed 400.
Dieter Fritsche : Ridge Runt : 06/06/2024

Some photos of my Fokker D8 [main pic, 016-018] built from a BB Kit, modified with ailerons. Engine is a PAW35 Diesel.
Dieter Fritsche : Fokker D8 : 06/06/2024

Hello Mary, some pictures of my Strike with OS 10 FSR [main pic, 003, 004].
Dieter Fritsche : Strike : 06/06/2024

Hi Steve, Hi Mary, 55 years after my first attempt at this model aged 14, I’ve just completed another one [main pic, 010, 011]. Built on the kitchen table 'out of the box' with no modifications to the original Mercury kit that I found on eBay, this one is again for Mills .75 and pure free flight. The earlier one looked pretty good as I recall but it didn’t fly too well as it wasn’t built accurately enough and the all-painted yellow finish made it far too heavy. The new one’s minimalistic colour scheme (crimson enamel over doped white tissue from the kit) is an approximation to that worn by airworthy Tiger G-AOJK, befitting of the model’s rather notional representation of the full-size. I’m now waiting for the wind to drop for the first test flights.
Richard Scott : Tiger Moth : 06/06/2024

Aha. Fixed now, thanks to RFJ.
SteveWMD : Cap 230 : 06/06/2024

I don't know where to start. I made one from a kit about 1972. I was 12 years old. Best glider I ever made. My plans had instructions for a fuse with a snuff tube and weight to swing back towards the tail of the plane incase it didn't want to come down. I've been wanting to replicate it ever since. One day it flew about a block away and landed in front of a police car. He stopped. Got out of his car and saw me and a friend chasing it. He asked were we threw it from. He was impressed. It blew his mind. It was a balsa and spruce kit. I loved it.
Tim Baker : Texas Bo Weevil : 06/06/2024

Sure. I am just wondering if anyone out there can scan and add any missing pages. Also it would also be nice to see the model pics in colour too, if possible.
SteveWMD : Cap 230 : 06/06/2024

There is still all the information on the plan necessary to build this model, thanks Steve.
John Green : Cap 230 : 06/06/2024

I think there may be a page of intro missing from the build part of the article.
SteveWMD : Cap 230 : 06/06/2024

Mystery solved. I remembered building two Ace Highs in the 80s that came from slightly different boxes. It’s apparent that I built the Ace High Mk II (oz5255) first. There was a gap at the rear of the outer dihedral breaks. That’s because the trailing edges didn’t match up. The airfoil was reflexed to create a washout effect. When I later built this version, there was no such feature. The Mark2 flew better it seemed.
Biff Kuntz : Ace High : 06/06/2024

An interesting plan--and an interesting plane. I think the five commercial versions went to serve with a KLM affiliate in Indonesia.
The Navy and Marine Corps bought some. One use was parachute training at Gillespie Field just east of San Diego. I had a friend, now deceased who joined the Marines in the fall of 1941. He got parachute training--bailing out of the Navy's version of the DC 5 at Gillespie Field in the late winter and early spring of 41-42. By late spring the Marines decided they didn't need a parachuter regiment. Most of the would be parachuters--including my friend--were landed on Tulagi off Guadalcanal in August 1942.
Mike Myers : Douglas DC-5 : 05/06/2024

Hey Steve, I noticed there is not vertical stab on this "early" plan, it was originally drawn in the wing section of the plan
Bobby : Thermic 20 Early : 05/06/2024

It has been pointed out elsewhere that DA Newell was a pseudonym for Walt Musciano. We could probably usefully link the two names somehow in the database, so for instance a search for plans by Musciano should also include these plans too.
SteveWMD : Polar Star : 05/06/2024

Looking at this, I think you're right. Ok, fixing this now.
SteveWMD : Wakefield Winner : 04/06/2024

Printing the 1st page of Views, they are not 25%, but closer to 21%. One fifth, not one quarter.
Printing the full scale parts, they print at ~.825. I believe the chord to be 5" even, and the print out measures 4.125". So custom scale of 121% should be close when printed
HobiePilot : Wakefield Winner : 04/06/2024

Wiki has a nice history article along with a colo(u)r picture of a restored aircraft.
Thomas Solinski : Arrow Active : 04/06/2024

Some photos of my JB-3 (oz10833) built precisely as per the plan [pics 007-010], with every single one of those tiny gussets in the fuselage, especially in the window area. I covered it in some very old tissue, so I wonder how long that'll last! Not yet flown. But my first model I built of this design did fly extremely well, and I was only about 12 years old. That was green too. No pictures of that one, it was so long ago I don't think photography had yet been invented!
Again, thank you both for giving we aeromodellers such pleasure each and every day. All the very best, Cheers, John and Kath.
John French : JB-3 : 03/06/2024

Hallo Frinds, photos of my new model the Szekely Flying Dutchman [pics 007-010] enlarged to Spannweite 2600 mm, Länge 1700 mm, Motor is Saito FG 30 B.
Werner Forster : Szekely Flying Dutchman : 03/06/2024

Hi Mary, Even though there are already some excellent examples of the Felix on your website, I thought I would share my take on this model [pics 014-016]. I took advantage of the translucent nature of tissue and placed graphics on the inside of the airframe. Thanks!
Brooke Linford : Felix : 03/06/2024

If anyone is wondering who this "Jiroaerop" is, Jiro Sugimoto-sama is visible on his splendid website below. Approach as you would do to any other Living National Treasure of Japan, and use a translator if needed.
https://blog.goo.ne.jp/jiroaerop2014
Miguel : Kawasaki Dornier Komet D-5 : 02/06/2024

Ah, that's nice. Have grabbed a still from that video, to use here as the main model pic.
SteveWMD : Kawasaki Dornier Komet D-5 : 02/06/2024

Jiroaerop has released a new video containing photos of construction as well as indoor flight - do enjoy !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbZbP6XgG5c
Martin La Grange : Kawasaki Dornier Komet D-5 : 02/06/2024

Jiroaerop in Japan has built one, and posted an inspirational video quite recently - do have a look here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-z77XckSds
Martin La Grange : Phantom Flash II : 02/06/2024

Well, I will be building a second garricoupe. Unfortunately, my dethermalizer failed and I lost it to a thermal. It was last seen hundreds of feet up and still rising as it headed over the hills a mile away.
Brooke Linford : Garricoupe : 02/06/2024

Rich and I have built this from his short kit and they are incredible fliers! If it wasn't for the dethermalizer I may have lost it with only 50% power!
Brooke Linford : CdH : 02/06/2024

Hi Doug, Erick,
I designed the airfoil based on my experience and what looks about right. I agree the actual shape is less important than the airfoil thickness. A nice thick airfoil is unlikely to stall even at very low speed, and that has been my experience with Wasp 1300, it has never stalled and is wonderfully aerobatic.
Warren Brown : Wasp 1300 : 31/05/2024

Hello good morning. I attach 2 photos of the Senior Telemaster [main pic, 003]. I also have the entire assembly process in photos, see https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.101.... greetings
Pedro Trevino : Senior Telemaster : 31/05/2024

Here are a few pictures of my Tracer 40 [main pic, 003-005]. I made a few changes, different canopy, tapered the bottom of the fuselage for looks, and increased the wingspan a bit. Has an OS .46 on it. Maiden flight was a great success, only needed a couple of clicks of up trim and it was flying hands off.
Sam Howe : Tracer 40 : 31/05/2024

Here is my Miss Vintage [pics 021, 022]. OS 40 engine, Covering Antique Oratex, Painted trim, graphics from Callie Graphics. Changes included dual aileron servos and covering the rear fuse area.
Ray Phillips : Miss Vintage : 31/05/2024

The plan is fullsize. So you can measure this directly from the pdf on your screen. See Knowledgebase pages for help on this at: https://outerzone.co.uk/knowledgebase/entry.asp?ID=106
SteveWMD : Thermal Charger : 31/05/2024

Many Thanks Doug. To be honest, I'm a little "afraid" of symetrical profil and his stalling capability at low speed ! So I think to change it for a NACA 2415 (or 2413 for more speed).
Erick
Erick : Wasp 1300 : 31/05/2024

The length of the model is not indicated
jirí císar : Thermal Charger : 31/05/2024

Photos of Bill Kubiak with R4-2Ms [main pic, 003]
Tom Ryan : R4 2M : 30/05/2024

Here is my completed Hoverking [pic 011], with thanks to Peter Gilbert, the designer. Just waiting for the right conditions to go flying in the Sierra de Madrid, Spain
Bill Dixon : Hoverking : 30/05/2024

Peter Fisher also referred to the Aspis 46" version as the Greater Aspis in correspondence. 0.75 - 1.25cc diesel power suggested.
David Hill : Aspis : 30/05/2024

During a visit to Ninetto’s apartment (laboratory) I had the opportunity to see the Cyclone in person.
http://www.thebuildingboard.com/2009/11/111009-visit-to-laboratory-of-giovanni.html
TomRyan : Streamlined Cyclone : 29/05/2024

I was curious about what Tom might have in his hangar, he had added a lot since my last visit. He now has over 150 plans at the reach of a mouse click. See the link at the bottom, and look for the Sky9pilot's Constellation.
Thanks, Tom!
https://freeflightarchive.com/index.php/plans-gallery

Miguel : Bristol 138a High Altitude : 29/05/2024

Attached some photos of the Streamlined Cyclone taken by me at a contest [pics 003-007].
Pit : Streamlined Cyclone : 29/05/2024

info on https://www.glide.net.au/flyingwing/wfreak.htm
pit : R4 2M : 29/05/2024

Photo of Streamlined Cyclone by Bob Jeffery. OS40FS engine, 81in span [main pic].
Trevor Boundy : Streamlined Cyclone : 29/05/2024

Hi, here is a photo [main pic] of my FROG "Wren" Flying at Old Warden on the 18th May 2024. Feel free to use it as you wish. Many thanks,
Leigh Richardson : Wren : 28/05/2024

Erick, the actual airfoil profile on these small models really does not make a big difference, anything close will work just fine. All you need to know is, flat bottom or symmetrical and what is the thickness. The PDF plan measures 12" chord and 1.9" thickness, which works out to about 15%. Just pick a symmetrical airfoil at 15% and you're done. My choice would be the Adidas airfoil at 15%. That's right, I traced it around my favorite tennis shoe. I have several long, skinny french curves which work for most airfoils close enough. Yes, I still use pencil and paper, not having graduated to CAD as yet. Works OK for me. Since you have to re-draw the plans anyway, no problem.
Doug Smith : Wasp 1300 : 28/05/2024

Hello, To use my laser cut machine, I'm redrawing the plan of the WASP 1300 and I'll very delighted to know what profil has been used on WASP 1300 ? Can you help me ?
best regards
Erick (France)
Erick BACCUS : Wasp 1300 : 28/05/2024

Hi Mary, I thought you would like a photo [main pic] of my vintage Coupe d' Hiver, plan #14952. Rich Wegener was kind enough to laser cut a short kit for me. It came in handy since my Garricoupe flew the coup (pun intended) last weekend. Thanks,
Brooke Linford : CdH : 27/05/2024

Greetings, I have built a second Super Ace to the same Modernistic plan [pics 007-009], this time scaled to 50" with changes made accordingly. More information here: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?4485953
Ted Backs : Corben Super Ace : 27/05/2024

Hello Outerzone, please find here some pictures of my Akro-Baby [pics 014-018] built this year with plan from Jaromir. I made some construction changes. Engine is OS FS30 which is very powerful for this small modell. If you like you can add this link to RC-Network. There is a building thread about this model issued by me: https://www.rc-network.de/threads/akro-baby-von-jaromir-pipek-1981.11994087/
The Akro-Baby is overall flying very good, following all commands very quick and gives high safety feeling to pilot. Only in case of spin, to finish it counterstearing is not enough also engine gas burst is needed. Very nice model for everyday use.
Kind regards,
Thomas : Akro-Baby : 27/05/2024

A beautiful model airplane. This one flies extremely well as drawn on the plan. It is well streamlined.
This model flies even better with increased main wing span for the same size model and fuselage length.
The wi span maybe increased 5" (inches) the tail plane made larger as well. The rear vertical Fin/Rudder requires enlargement possibly near 50% larger.
These improvements assist straightline stability and and the larger wings, gliding ability.
In my view about 1" inch may be removed from the rear of the fuselage to reduce the distance between the rear stabiliser and the main wing. This reduces weight in the rear of the model. This isn't absolutely necessary though.
Approximately 1/1/4" (inch) maybe applied to the front of the fuselage to improve the C.G - Centre of Gravity when carrying a large Rubber Motor.
But these changes are not absolutely necessary.
Marc Turner : Aristocrat : 27/05/2024

Tom Akery keeps flying high with an eye for the rarely seen subject. Careful with this one, or she'll go OOS too easily!
Miguel : Bristol 138a High Altitude : 26/05/2024

Nice one, thanks for the plan.
dennis : Bel-Air 40 : 25/05/2024

Ok, done. Finally. Have added a new model photo [main pic] with thanks to Skippy. Moved the questionable photo (of the Greater Sunduster) down to pic 003. Thanks for your help David.
SteveWMD : Sun Duster : 24/05/2024

Essentially they are the same, but with subtle differences. I had all versions in my possession, but passed them on to somebody else, and am trying to retrieve photos. The original drawings for the Greater Duster were in pencil on the back of other plans.
David Hill : Sun Duster : 24/05/2024

For the avoidance of doubt, there are no pics of this Sun Duster design in our gallery.
SteveWMD : Sun Duster : 24/05/2024

Allen, they all look the same to me. That's why we have the wrong picture up here just now. That's how we got here. That's the problem we are trying to solve. Do you not think it might be best if you - the person who does know which one is the right picture - simply send it in?
SteveWMD : Sun Duster : 24/05/2024

I do not have a photo of the correct model , but you can have a choice of photos by going to the Vintage Model Works web site and scrolling down to the vintage/historic entry and when the contents double bar appears click on aircraft kits where the first kit shows several different images of 'Sunduster' models which if you click on the thumbnails and wait a few seconds you get a much enlarged image ! You can go crazy trying to decide which one to select ! Now if someone could only find a plan for the Greater Duster and send it to Outerzone !
I believe a/some photos of 'Sunduster' appear in your Gallery file .
Allen Wale : Sun Duster : 24/05/2024

Ah. Right. Can you save us all some time and just send in a pic of the correct model? I don't have the book physically here, as I said this photo of the book cover was found online. See my comment above. But you do have the book. Thanks.
SteveWMD : Sun Duster : 24/05/2024

The plan shown here is for the SUN DUSTER . I have the plan . The photo to the right is for the GREATER DUSTER ! It was powered by the Stentor 6 c.c. spark engine . In Peter's book , page 96 top left is a photo of the Sun Duster . Note the landing gear (undercarriage details as for the plan entry today (24 May, 2024). Page 98 overleaf shows the Greater Duster with a very different landing gear arrangement . It was a larger version and probably preceded the Sun Duster . The latter is a 1946 design and my plan shows a 4.5 c.c. Majesco spark engine . The wheels are shown as 3 inch baloon and the landing gear is mounted on the most forward bulkhead , pure Peter Fisher . The gear on the Greater Duster appears to be mounted a bit further back and may be of greater diameter . It has dual legs on either side of the fuselage . These two models and their respective photo images are often mixed up . The fins and underfins of these two models are quite different making it easier to differentiate between them ! Peter's photos show this quite clearly . Hope this helps !
Allen Wale : Sun Duster : 24/05/2024

Aha, got it. Have added a pic [edit: moved now, see pic 003], from the cover of that book "Collector's Guide to Model Aero Engines" by OFW Fisher, photo found online at https://modelenginenews.org/ed.2005.06.html. Many thanks.
SteveWMD : Sun Duster : 24/05/2024

3 sizes of Sun Duster were built by John Kemp with the encouragement of Peter Fisher. One of them, powered by a Stentor ignition engine, is shown on the cover of Peter Fisher's book on Model Engines, though surprisingly there was no acknowledgement of the fact by Fisher himself. The Stentor was a particularly powerful example.
One of John Kemp's Sun Dusters won the Sigma Trophy Contest for ignition powered models in 1988, 1989 and 1990. He won the trophy again in 1991 with a Cloud Elf.
David Hill : Sun Duster : 24/05/2024

Ah, ok. Thanks, I'm not familiar with this. Maybe nothing here needs fixing then. The cropping at the top and bottom edges of the scans looks like a fault to me, but if all the details a builder needs are here, then I guess we are all good.
SteveWMD : Jige Nyou : 24/05/2024

Hi Steve, There appears to be some misunderstanding here (probably me!). You say there are sections missing but, as far as I can see, you have the complete original Guillemard plan, i.e. anything you consider to be missing was missing on the original plan. I have this plan and, personally, I can't see anything missing. It's worth mentioning that Jean Guillemard used to say that the plane would be better with normal solid sheet ribs.
Regards
Brian : Jige Nyou : 24/05/2024

I think we could usefully split this entry into two listings, if anyone out there has a scan of the earlier design. Then we'd have a page for the 1939 original by Stan Ford, and this page for the 1974 Pete Fisher version. Anyone?
SteveWMD : Cloud Elf : 24/05/2024

Allan Wale, thank you very much for the really interesting information about the Cloud Elf. I didn't know about the article in the 1939 Aero Modeller. I have copied the article and submitted it to Outerzone, as it adds to the rich and interesting history of this model. Regards,
Mark Robinson : Cloud Elf : 24/05/2024

The wing profile looks quite generic. I would use something like the Selig 3021. It's a glider profile but should do well on this model.
MHodgson : Tri-Star : 23/05/2024

The Canard is a flat plate of 3/16 (5mm) wood. Round the LE off and taper the elevator part and that's it. No specific profile at all.
MHodgson : Tri-Star : 23/05/2024

Saludos, I have built many models taken from OUTERZONE, I am about to print this wonderful plan of the tri Star, but I have a question, which wing profile this canard uses, could you please inform me, thank you
José G veliz v : Tri-Star : 23/05/2024

I am a 1939 model myself and have always been keen on model aircraft of that year . I think my first awareness of the 'CLOUD ELF 'was from Peter Fisher's 1977 book on model engines . Images of the model appeared on pages 126 and 127...photos 233 and 239 . The latter was everything I look for in a free flight sport model especially if it's Vintage ! I wrote to Peter (from Canada) to obtain a copy of the plan .
In 1980 while on business in the UK I met David Baker who gave me a copy of an Aeromodeller article on 'ELF' from June 1939 . Page 106 describes the kit and other pertinent details while page 107 shows the initial advertisement for the model and spark engine also produced by the CLOUD model aircraft company . I had never seen an actual model .
Stan Ford was pictured in an early SAM 35 monthly publication and again in their annual year book # 4 (page 85) . I would be in the UK in June 1989 and wrote to Stan Ford whom I was able to visit and have a hands on acquaintance with the model . He had refurbished it covering it in nylon . A Mills 1.3 engine was mounted inverted so I cannot say what marque it was. Right away I noticed some design differences from Peter's plan and drew up outlines for the Grant X8 airfoil and slightly different cowling profile .
The American AMA has the original plan on offer . Peter's cowl seems to match That plan ! He appears to have got the landing gear correct also as it is very different from those designed by Peter himself .
The revised wing structure is pure Peter with balanced spars top and bottom . The original has a 1/2 X 1/4 forward of the CG on the bottom with a 1/4 square on the airfoil top well toward the trailing edge , again a balanced spar situation. There is no PLAN view but the maximum widths at each cross piece station are shown. Draw a centre line and build a ladder like structure 3/16 square that same distance inside the widths specified and you can be sure of having a NO BANANA like finished fuselage! The ladder should be removed ! I think if an early Mills 1.3 engine is used there would not be a tail heavy situation as these were heavier .
An excellent colour photo of the 'ELF' can be viewed by a search for 'Vintage Model Works' , a UK site , and scroll down to a double bar of offerings to select 'Aircraft History' . About 2/3rds down the page is a thumbnail of the 'ELF' which if clicked on shows a near full screen presentation where much detail can be discerned ! There used to be a video of the 'ELF' being flown , free flight, of course, on the Raynes Park Model Aircraft Club site . The free flight leanings of this club seem to have been erased from memory by the apparent R/C adherents now running the web site !Pity !
Allen Wale : Cloud Elf : 22/05/2024

Ah, well nobody knows everything.. But one should remember that this was freeflight, NO radio and connecting bits. ie every flight ends with a crash landing unless one is quite lucky. Weight of the usual models was usually a bit too light for ff and long life models, and us schoolboys appreciated a plane that would stand up to rough treatment. 1/16" sheeting isn't too heavy (depending on wood and glue of course), and avoiding tissue tears is a plus. I would build one as per plan, but the 3/16" longeroons wood not need to be hard wood imho.
Oh, and early radio was heavy, very heavy, for the small planes and motors I used back in the 60's. It is surprising how a heavy a model can sometimes get and still fly - but not recommended!! Feathers don't break as they say..
Back in the 80's a mate of mine built one of these (as per plan) with light radio (for the time) on rudder and elevator. ED Bee powered it was a tad underpowered, but it did fly nicely.
Jim : Madcap : 22/05/2024

There is some familiarity in the wing and tailplane structures, though that can't be a surprise coming from the same designer. Otherwise they are completely different - raised tailplane, open cockpit, cabane structure, fuselage profile, etc., on the Ziz, but absent on the Model L.
David Hill : Model L : 22/05/2024

In the mean time she has flown a couple of times, and she flies pretty well.
jan brilman : Bellanca Skyrocket : 22/05/2024

Here is an XAC-5 photo [main pic]. Model built by John Kemp. Regards,
David Hill : X-AC-5 : 22/05/2024

Hi Mary/Steve, Please see attached some pictures of a friends (Allan) Meson, an excellent flying model [main pic, 006-009]. This model is powered by a 1.3cc Mills diesel. If anyone wants to see a video of it flying there is one on my YouTube Channel, here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwJARE5ORN4
Best wishes,
Mark Robinson : Meson MkIV : 22/05/2024

Hi, My friend Tom Vanwonterghem build 2 Kosmos. I did the covering job in Ferrari Red [main pic, 007-012]. Great plan, everything fits well together, thanks!
Greetings from Belgium,
Tom : Kosmo 3 : 22/05/2024

Hi Mary/Steve, Please see attached some pictures of a friends (Allan) 42" Apex, an excellent flying model powered by a 1.3cc Mills diesel [main pic, 007, 008]. If anyone wants to see a video of it flying there is one on my YouTube Channel, here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb3iaHf49-k
Best wishes,
Mark Robinson : Apex Mk14 : 22/05/2024

Hello, Herewith a couple of photos of my "Cyclone" finally finished after a few test flights [main pic, 005]. It flies nicely with the Michel Gross "Pusteblume" geared motor (Mabuchi FK-050 with 5:1 reduction gear) drawing 1.4A maximum, APC electric 7x6 propeller and 3S, 300 mAh Lipo, good for more than 20 minutes flying time, at a flying weight of 226 grams (just under 8 oz.). I am looking forward to many flights with this one, each time remembering my past encounters with Emmanuel Fillon. A build log is at: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?4375263
Best modelling regards,
Jean-Marie Piednoir : Le Cyclone : 22/05/2024

I recently had a lot of fun with John Woodfield's design, Ocean Breeze. Inspired, I am now building a Hoverking [pic 010]. What I especially like about this design is the way that the dorsal spine blends into the fin. The whole body is actually a lifting aerofoil and of course the wings are both functional and pleasing to the eye. Mine came out at 750 grams, not bad for a WS of 1.8m.
Bill Dixon : Hoverking : 21/05/2024

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