Mitsubishi F1M2 Pete (oz13891)

 

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Delighted, as usual, to see another one of your efforts
Jan Novick - 20/06/2022
Thank you, Jan. I've had a few other projects prior to PETE but unfortunately, since I often work from nicely detailed 3-views as a plan (like a Dornier Do 17P), they don't qualify for addition to OuterZone. That's all right...I understand. Very nice to "hear" from you, Jan.
Neal Green - 22/06/2022
It's certain. In this area of scale, it's a hell of a job. I'm always amazed when I see designers working like that... Bravo. Latecoere 298, Broussard Mh 1521, Mureaux 180-C2 Pursuit, Breguet 695, Amiot 143 as on this site of old peanut plans: https://www.peanut-scale.fr/a-les-cahiers-du-cervia.html
There is something to do to help yourself ;-)
Olivier - 22/06/2022
Don't qualify for OuterZone? I don't understand, most if not all scale designs in the OZ had to begin life as a 3-view of some sort, If the criterium is design age, OZ contains 250 plans ten years old or less.
And your Pete's a peach :)
Miguel - 22/06/2022
Whoa boys...didn't mean to ignite a firestorm! Thank you all...at the same time. Steve and I have had the same discussion more than once and I completely agree with him...OuterZone features "VINTAGE & OLD-TIMER PLANS," that's what it says. Steve advises me to draw a few lines here and there to make it into a pseudo-plan. I just never seem to get around to it! Still...I continue to attempt stretching the envelope. :) Maybe someone out there will come up with a category for 3-view inspired builds. Sometimes we encounter very nice technical drawings that are so accurate, so opportune, they are all one needs (besides experience) to proceed. Beware, however! Be certain to get out your dividers and check for accuracy...many copying procedures will distort what appears to be accurate. Thank you, friends.
Neal Green - 22/06/2022
Still I don't follow, if a scale model is not based on a 3-view then it is based on what? Wherefore art thou Wylam, Nieto, Westburg, Bentley? Perhaps we should seek guidance from the Outerzone Thrones and Dominations?
Miguel - 23/06/2022
Miguel, we love to post photos up alongside plans. But for 'orphan' photos that arrive here without a plan, there is no plan page for us to use. Because the plan page does not exist. The solution is clear. Whilst building the orphan model, draw up a plan - a simple plan that shows all (or most of, or even just *some*) of the information that other modellers will need to build the model shown in the photo. Then send them both in here to us, together.
Re 3-views vs Plans: We cover this in the FAQ, but for some clarity here a 3-view is not a plan. Because a 3-view just shows the outside shape of an airframe, and it does not explain how to build a model. But a plan shows you how to build a model, because it shows detailed information and description of the materials used, the shapes of the internal formers, and the parts that will fit together, the methods used, to make a complete flying model.
SteveWMD - 23/06/2022
I'm sorry, I misread Neal's post. I had no idea he was filling your inbox with pretty photos of his collection, disconnected from any plans in OZ. Indeed publishing those with a 3-view for justification makes no sense.
Photos coming with a new plan, sure, that's the idea! Neal himself has done that - see oz12957, oz12874, and oz12707 among others, and fine plans they are too.
Miguel - 23/06/2022
I truly love all of OuterZone's plan offerings. For me, they are perfect even with their imperfections. Interesting how participating in this hobby for over 70 years has altered my view of a plan's purpose. In the beginning plans were virtually holy...collected and treasured. Soon they became a starting point...like a basic sketch on a great canvas. They became a tool...but certainly not necessarily the end in and of themselves...moving toward artistic expression...that was the model itself. I seem to know what goes between the lines of that sketch...what is under the skin of that model. So I'm guilty of interpreting the definition of a plan at its barest essentials. Sometimes that simple 3-view is all one has to start with...for others it may require a bit more inspiration. :) Thanks you to the folk at OuterZone for this wonderful website.
Neal Green - 23/06/2022
I see the Buddha has reincarnated in an airmodeller :)
Miguel - 23/06/2022
Ah Miguel, you make me smile.... Modeling, like any form of artistic expression, is passionate by nature. Recall those paint-by-number kits for young people...it doesn't take long for the would-be artist to begin self-expressing. That's the entire purpose of all these modeling plans. You are a brother, Miguel. ;) Thank you.
Neal - 24/06/2022
Oh, but I am not worthy. Building straight on top of the 3-view... Verily you have taken off the runway towards Enlightenment :)
Miguel - 25/06/2022
I really enjoy using the Pres Bruning plans. I spend a lot of time staring at 3-views, making the model's form in my head. The best ones have sectional fuse shapes and station markings on the profile drawing to locate them.
You can enlarge the 3-view to your proposed scale, place tracing paper over the Xerox enlargement and begin the process of expressing a model.
Airfoils are no problem, try a Clark Y and see how the wing shapes up. Put in enough airfoils of, say, minimum of 4 max of 6, depending on wing size in Peanut scale.
Calipers, rulers, t-squares and ship's curves, along with good drafting pencils and leads, become your best shop companions. Stick to peanut scale or below and use standard drafting techniques and "stick and tissue" model design styles to come up with your very own unique scale model. If a shape stumps you, invest in a 1/72 scale plastic model as a 3-D reference.
Or just use 3-views and make a profile model out of balsa or foam sheet. During the covid fiasco, I couldn't go anywhere so I built balsa "book scale" jet plane models, using drawings from Lloyd S. Jones' "U.S. Naval Fighters" book published in 1977 by the U.S. Naval Institute.
My subject was the USN McDonnel FH-1 Phantom because it had straight wings and a good wingspan of 5 3/8" on the page. I made about 5 of these floaters and had a ton of fun gliding them across the living room and used the kitchen floor as my carrier deck. Construction was 1/16" sheet balsa, all edges contured and the wings given a shallow airfoil shape by sanding the upper surface. Nose weight was small pieces of lead solder affixed to the nose using a micro drill to drill into the nosetip, then I inserted the cylindrical solder piece. It worked very well.
To obtain the CG weight needed, make a small balsa stick cradle spanning the wing bottom across the center fuse placed on a scale. Tare the weight and push the nose down on the balanced model until you have the attitude you want, read off the gram weight and that is your nose weight starting point for trimming trials. We'll see how the Mitsu model works out as a small indoor profile model just for fun.
One FH-1 model from the Jones book was used as an experiment by covering with clear laminating film. Too heavy, flew like a dog. The rest flew very well as bare balsa.
I also copied an enlarged 3-view of a SBD Dauntless dive bomber from a 3-view in my collection onto clear overhead projector film and cut the parts with scissors, gluing them with cyano. They fly nicely indoors.
When is a 3-view a plan? When you turn it into an ersatz Nocal profiler and patrol the living room skies!
Happy modeling to you all!
Victor Baca - 12/08/2023
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