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Many thanks to Gerritl for the Celestial Horseman pics.
SteveWMD : Celestial Horseman : 28/04/2017

Hi Steve, with reference to the scaling of the Chatterbox span, I have an original Aeromodeller plan. The span actually measures 29.75". I don't know how stable the plan paper is over time, but that is the span on the plan without any dihedral dimension loss.
AlanD : Chatterbox : 26/04/2017

Comet clipper ...not at all a correction, but there appears no pattern for the windshield on the plan. Difficult to draw one and means of gluing. GREAT R/C O/T design.
anon : Comet Clipper : 25/04/2017

Another update after some more flying. The elevator seems inadequate for a gentle landing, although I would call it acceptable for a free flight model so I wouldn't hesitate to add the second half. I am increasing battery size from 800 to 1000mah 2Sas I am getting only 5 minutes air time. All in all a rewarding effort.
KhalidKhan : Achilles 1-1/2 : 25/04/2017

Added some superb photos from EldonMasini [more pics 003-007].
Mary : Cessna AW-10 : 25/04/2017

Built from plan oz 8090 [model photo & more pics 003]. Converted to electric power and built-up wing.
DonMurray : Martin AM-1 Mauler : 25/04/2017

[Almost] forgot the pilot pic [more pics 013]. Thankfully, the Williams Brothers pilot figures are again available. Most of the hobby shops don't handle them but they're available direct. I used the 1/6 scale standard pilot, the version with the movable head and leather helmet. He looks to the side to see over the long Ugly Stik nose when he taxis down the runway. His ski nose didn't do much for me, made him look like Bob Hope, so I gave him a more manly appearance with some body putty and a mustache. Yes I know he's a pain to paint, but Testor's flat enamel colors make it easier and the flat finish hides some of your mistakes much better than gloss. As a tribute to Phil Kraft, his name is on the fuselage.
DougSmith : Das Ugly Stik : 24/04/2017

My Ugly Stik is finished and test flown this morning in rotten weather. So far as I can tell, it flies very well with the seemingly smallish motor, a Leopard 4250, 960 KV. A Venon 3300 3 cell lipo supplies 480 watts with APC 12x6 prop. I was able to beat my target weight of 4 lbs by more than expected. Final weight, with battery, is 3 lb, 6 oz. Covered with Doculam and painted with Rustoleum in U.S. Army Air Corps colors, insignia and tail stripes are decals [more pics 012]. My version is built upside down as a tail dragger from the RCM plans, identical to the original except for more modern radio equip. Only other changes made were to lighten it up as much as possible for electric power. Hope to get in some more flights soon.
DougSmith : Das Ugly Stik : 24/04/2017

Changed this listing now to show designer as Bill Winter (not PDG).
SteveWMD : High Diver : 24/04/2017

Here are some shots of oz2124, the Doc Matthews drawn 1/2A Frank Zaic Miss America [more pics 003-007]. I'll send more pictures when I get the windows glued in. Some of these are "in the bones" shots, prior to any electronics or covering. The others are shots of it completed, minus final gluing of empennage, and installation of windows. Once I get that done, I'll send some more pictures, and maybe even a link to a flight video. Thanks for such a great site. Cheers,
Kris : Miss America : 24/04/2017

Hello, here are a few pictures of a silk-covered Lil Champ I built in 1987 and still fly regularly with single-channel Elmic Compact escapement [more pics 004-008]. Only difference from the original is a two-wheel landing gear instead of the tricycle gear shown on the plan. It is a great flier at 18.2 oz. weight with the 1960 Cox .049 Baby Bee and 6x3 Top Flite nylon prop for power. Now flown on 2.4Ghz with a little Flysky 3-channel receiver and a Pololu RC switch. Controlled by either a dedicated home-made transmitter or the Taranis transmitter used in pushbutton fashion (one press for right, two for left) using the trainer switch and appropriate OpenTx programming. One of my favorite models, and a conversation starter every time it is flown. Best modelling regards.
JMP_blackfoot : Lil Champ : 24/04/2017

Hi Steve, here's a couple of photos [more pics 004, 005] of my new Ridge Runt, 20 odd years after my first one! Ready to fly weight came in at exactly 1lb. Keep up the good work on this magnificent site. Cheers,
MikeJones : Ridge Runt : 24/04/2017

Again, thanks Pit!
SteveWMD : Boeing F4B-2 : 22/04/2017

Thanks to Pit for help with this one. Hurst Bowers - of course, I should have known.
SteveWMD : Wallace Touroplane : 22/04/2017

I had this kit when I was a kid, I noticed the main wheels seemed distorted like this on the original plans. I think the dimensions on this set is correct.
ChrisS : Cessna Skylane 62 : 22/04/2017

I am interested in seeing the updated plans of my original design.
PeterGrimwade : Queen Bee : 21/04/2017

Sorry but no wing ribs on plan.
MiltonB : Spitfire 24 / Seafire 47 : 21/04/2017

What a lovely thing to say, Julien - life can indeed be beautiful!
Mary : Baby : 20/04/2017

Hi Steve and Mary, this will be my next model. Thanks to OUTER ZONE and the people who upload! Life can be beautiful!
JulienVermeire : Baby : 20/04/2017

Thanks for the STARTER update, Julien :) Yes, RCLibary is our site too - glad to hear you like it!
Mary : Starter : 20/04/2017

Hi Steve and Mary, today is very good weather to test the STARTER. With 5 minutes motor power, I still have 40 minutes thermals gliding. No trim needed, the STARTER flies very well for the first flight. Such a cheap glider and also fly incredibly. Am very happy with my aircraft from the '70s and '80s. Today I've also flown with the WINDY oz6947, yet such a cheap plane. Here in Belgium, the weather can be very different in one day. Cold and windy yesterday, today very good. I have a quick question: is website also by Steve and Mary? Very nice this website!
JulienVermeire : Starter : 20/04/2017

Excellent, thanks for this. If I was about to build one of these, I'd certainly start with hogal's plan. Less to go wrong, I think.
SteveWMD : RCM Big Bird : 20/04/2017

I created a bunch of files to cut laser kits for the RCM Big Bird and Big Bird II. This was a few months ago, and now I'm looking at the files because I want to build a plane, and I notice that the existing body of available plans for the RCM Big Bird and Big Bird Too is a mishmash. The scans featured on Outerzone are a magazine blow up for the original Big Bird, and a really distorted scan of a full scale plan for the Big Bird Too oz6220. There is a CAD-generated combined plan available that shows both airplanes, but I do not see this file on Outerzone. I'll attach it to this email so you can make it available. Its dimensions deviate considerably from the other two plans. Unfortunately I do not know which one to believe, and I suspect that all of them are incorrect. It does not help matters that the dimensions quoted in the magazine articles do not match any of the three plans. For instance, the overall fuselage length of the BB and the BBToo are quoted as 54.25 and 54.5 respectively. From the tip of the rudder to the firewall, my drafting program says 49.75 and 50.5 from the Outerzone downloads. The combined CAD plan has this dimension as 49.75 and 48.75. To complicate the issue, RCM was apparently not on the ball at the time. Total wing area is quoted at 1360 square inches on the first plane, and 900 on the second, even though the article says they used the original wing for the second plane. I understand that your main role is historian, and I appreciate that. Unfortunately, things get complicated when I cut stuff out on my laser cutter and it doesn't match the plan that somebody has printed out for their building project. The scans currently on Outerzone are both inaccurate in their own ways. Whether the combined CAD drawing is correct is anybody's guess. I figure if you make it available as a download for both planes, at least we can all work from something that has straight lines, and we'll all have the same drawing. Thanks a lot for everything you do. I appreciate it.
Balsaworkbench : RCM Big Bird : 20/04/2017

Hi Mary, Concerning the ribs and formers for the Leisure Playboy, this is a very famous U.S. free flight competition gas model and the rib and former patterns are readily available on Outerzone from other versions of the Playboy plan. It was originally designed by Joe Elgin and there's a 71 inch version that's almost the same size, but ribs from any of the several versions can be scaled to suit. Regards from Toronto, Canada,
SimonBlake : Playboy : 19/04/2017

The model photo and more pics 003-006 are from Joe Fergusson's personal collection, gifted to Outerzone by Joe's daughter, Cheryl.
Mary : Handley Page Gugnunc : 22/04/2017

The Starter is ready to fly, but not today too much wind. With the auxiliary engine I am fully independent [more pics 009]. Now wait and see on a beautiful day. Total flyweight 530 gram, or 1.16845 pound. Thanks for OUTERZONE.
JulienVermeire : Starter : 19/04/2017

Hello Steve! This is my 29" span Gillespie's "Zephyr", I hope you like it! [more pics 004-007]
MarcoAGuillermo : Zyphyr : 18/04/2017

Hi Steve! Here you have some pics of my Korda Wakefield built with empty ribs and completely removable like British style! [model photo & more pics 003-008] Regards,
MarcoAGuillermo : Korda Wakefield : 18/04/2017

Photo of original model was found online at
SteveWMD : Sport Spitfire : 18/04/2017

I did some photos of the Curtiss Robin - Burd model [model photo & more pics 003-007]. Thanks for the wonderful work to rescue these plans!
EldonMasini : Curtiss Robin : 17/04/2017

Added some useful photos of the Leisure Playboy boxes, thanks to Pit [more pics 003-007].
Mary : Playboy : 17/04/2017

I have built the Orbit Ace [model photo].
BerndLangner : Orbit Ace : 15/04/2017

Hi. Here are a couple of photos of Herr Flick [more pics 03, 004]. I built the model in 1996 powered by an OS25 with futaba 35meg radio. At that time Mr Blobby was all the rage, hence the look. The children loved it.
TerryB : Herr Flick : 15/04/2017

Thanks Stephen, always good to receive constructive criticism :) We host all sorts of plans on Outerzone, which people look at for all sorts of reasons. One person's 'junk' is another person's historical record. This particular plan was flagged as "formers unchecked", to alert viewers to what may be missing, and has been downloaded 2,500+ times without complaint. Thanks to your input, I've changed the tag to "formers incomplete" (should've done this in 2015 after the first comment!). If you'd rather not download incomplete plans like this, just avoid the ones not flagged as "all formers complete".
Mary : Playboy : 14/04/2017

Ah well this is more of a picture rather than a plan. A plan has the details required to complete the construction of a particular project. This picture has no rib profiles. Even an airfoil section would be useful as this could then be scaled in a photocopier and the spar and stringer cutouts added. This has nothing and is useless for wing construction. You have known this for years as per the previous comment. Remove or fix the plan, the net has enough junk already on it. I do realise that this is a free download and that the plan is just a copy of one from a kit which would have had the ribs cut already. Understanding, but not suitable for an excuse.
StephenH : Playboy : 14/04/2017

Steve was not going to the field Sunday, so he invited me over today. Steve still has the original kit box, so I included it in the pics [more pics 003-007]. Steve's Gemini has been fitted with an alloy undercarriage as he found the original wire gear was too short and with no new canopies available he has used a coca-cola PET bottle carved to shape to an acceptable effect. Power is a OS 40H RC from the late 70s as well.
DavidW : Gemini : 13/04/2017

I have a picture for you! [more pics 004]
Anon : Stunt Trainer 180 : 12/04/2017

I flew the Achilles last Sunday. It flew off the drawing board as aeromodellers say. No trimming needed at all. This motor is well matched to the airframe. The elevator works too. Thanks for the plan.
KhalidKhan : Achilles 1-1/2 : 12/04/2017

The Pipsqueak was an enjoyable build and it flies great! I have been adding spacers under the trailing edge of the wing to cut down on the ballooning when the speed increases, it has plenty of down thrust. It's just a matter of adjusting the wing incidence for how I like my planes to fly.
EdmundD : Pipsqueak : 12/04/2017

GuyB sent us this super old photo of his Witch Craft model [more pics 004].
Mary : Witch Craft : 12/04/2017

Hi Mary, different formats of Dalotel, all belonging to Barry Hunt [more pics 004-006].
AndyCoutts : Dalotel : 10/04/2017

Hi Mary - Quarter Scale Cap 21. For a change Lindsay is on the other side of the camera [more pics 003, 004].
AndyCoutts : CAP 21 : 10/04/2017

Added photo of finished model [more pics 003], thanks to Andy Coutts.
Mary : Quicky 500 : 10/04/2017

Cracking vintage pic of Vroom Hilda, thanks to AndyCoutts [more pics 003].
Mary : Vroom Hilda : 10/04/2017

The STARTER is ready [more pics 007, 008]. Now even the build engine support as usual, comes above wing. It was fun to build this glider.
JulienVermeire : Starter : 10/04/2017

Here are some pictures of my Pipsqueak (Mini Esquire) built from your plans, tile printed from your website [more pics 005-012]. It flies very nicely. I built it with a short kit from
EdmundD : Pipsqueak : 10/04/2017

Hello Mary and Steve, a couple of pictures of the Gas Bag [more pics 003, 004]. Only one flight so far but it appears to be a well mannered and easy to fly model. Thanks for your site.
TonyC : Gas Bag : 10/04/2017

I bought, built the Pilot QB 2500 years ago and never had the chance to fly it. Still have it but no place here will allow it. Unless I drive to the middle of desert! Question, what year did they come out with this glider?
LeonardChapman : QB 2500 : 09/04/2017

Added a coupe more vintage pics, thanks to Andy Coutts [more pics 005, 006].
Mary : Senior Falcon : 07/04/2017

I have J. Herder's original model Tot [model photo & more pics 003]. The flying surfaces need re-covering but it's a very cute model and a lovely flier.
GaryD : Tot : 07/04/2017

I built one about 12 years ago and converted it to electric and made the wing removable. It is a very stable flyer and could cruise with very little power. The attitude in the air is very scale (tail high) and very impressive. It is not a difficult build but does take time to cut the parts. The one thing I would change from the original would be to make the wing a full D-tube. I found the plan's version was a little too fragile in the outboard sections for my tastes. My version came out to about 5 lbs. flying weight and I used two 200 watt motors using two 3S 1300mah LiPo packs. With some thought, the batteries can be moved forward in the fuselage and of a size to counter the tail weight. Using more powerful motors would also be helpful. This is very much worth the effort to build. It is my understanding that these plans are the basis of several giant scale versions so the scale dimensions are very close as is the basic design.
RonFrenzl : Vickers Wellington MkI : 07/04/2017

It seems the quiz "name the parts", fuselage=Mitsubishi Raiden, wings= Macchi 200, first half cockpit= Spitfire, Rudder= slightly Messerschmitt 109. Undercarriage= p47. The only FW 190 part is the tailplane. More interpretations are welcomed.
Pit : Focke-Wulf 190 : 06/04/2017

Thank you for a treasure trove collection of free model plans. I had a KK Ajax kit when I was a kid. Never got around to building it and finally it was lost to time somewhere along. Thanks to Peter for rendering the Achilles which reminds me of the Ajax. It is built strictly to plan [model photo & more pics 003-010] other than substituting a Sunnysky Angel 2212 800kv motor for the Mills . I have also added a small elevator on one side. It hasn't flown yet but feels very light and the thrust appears way too much. I like the 11 5 prop as it reminds me of the rubber model. Thanks again to you and Peter for making it all possible. From Peshawar.
KhalidKhan : Achilles 1-1/2 : 06/04/2017

Indeed. I guess in 1942 they had little good reference material on the 190.
SteveWMD : Focke-Wulf 190 : 06/04/2017

A very out of scale plan, it resemble a mix of of different WW2 fighter.
anon : Focke-Wulf 190 : 06/04/2017

Effectively in AMA Ted Strader's autobiography he declared this plan as his own
pit : Spooks : 06/04/2017

hmmm... seems to me this is a Ted Strader design, fronted by an article credited to Lynn East?
SteveWMD : Spooks : 05/04/2017

The Spooks model was presented by Lynn East. The drawing was done by Ted Strader.
anon : Spooks : 05/04/2017

Cessna 182 Skylane belonging to Dave Chalk, now resident in the UK [more pics 003].
AndyCoutts : Cessna 182 Skylane : 05/04/2017

The Skymaster I was referring to was built by a club member Paul Gordon-Brander and has twin 60s for power and a 77 inch wing [more pics 005].
AndyCoutts : Cessna Skymaster : 05/04/2017

Hi Mary and Steve. Last my model Rearwin Sportster by F Baecke [We've added one of Maciej's images as the model photo. Follow his link to see more pictures of a lovely build.]
Maciej : Rearwin Sportster : 05/04/2017

Nice one, Tony. Someone really should build this one, now. Funnily, I always see this as a twin, from the side view. Would look good that way, too.
SteveWMD : PAA-Packet : 04/04/2017

Hi there, just sending you a couple of pics of my Cannonball build from plans from your website [more pics 003-006]. Cox .020 is just for pics as I will go with small brushless outrunner.
MarekUrbas : Cannonball : 03/04/2017

According to Jim Alaback on his plans published by Earl Stahl, (follow the link At the bottom of the list he makes this comment: "**Three models were published undersize without being so noted by the editor. These three may be built to the published plan size or enlarged to the original size: Curtiss XP-55, 15-7/8" or 22-11 /16"; Fairey Barracuda, 15-7/32" or 21-3/4"; Vultee XP-54, 13-1 / 16" or 18-11 / 16"." Hope this helps with the size of these plans.
Garry : Vultee XP-54 : 03/04/2017

Hi Mary and Steve - Another vintage photo ... My father with his friend Miguel and the "Grosse Winkler" (plan ID: oz8562), Madrid 1943 [model photo & more pics 003]. Saludos from Spain.
JesusAbellan : Grosse Winkler : 03/04/2017

Now I am sending pictures of my Watkinson Dingbat [model photo & more pics 003-005].
EldonMasini : Watkinson Dingbat : 03/04/2017

Added some nice old pics of the Ugly Stik, thanks to Andy Coutts, who's been raiding his attic again :) [more pics 004-007]
Mary : Das Ugly Stik : 31/03/2017

More old photos [more pics 005-007]. The Big Stik with a sky-diver underneath belonged to my partner in "The" Hobby Shop, Barry Hunt.
AndyCoutts : Big Stik : 31/03/2017

You're right, Mike. Steve has fixed it just now. Thank you!
Mary : RAF BE2e : 31/03/2017

It looks like this plan may not be scaled correctly. The plan size does not appear to match the wingspan. Am I missing something?
MikeB : RAF BE2e : 31/03/2017

Quarter Scale de Havilland Beaver. One of the last RC models I built before giving up and going sailing [model pics 003-006].
AndyCoutts : De Havilland Beaver : 31/03/2017

Vintage photo thanks to Andy Coutts [more pics 005].
Mary : Skybolt : 31/03/2017

Added lovely vintage photo, thanks to Andy Coutts [more pics 006].
Mary : Pietenpol Air Camper : 31/03/2017

Never say never. When I stopped sailing and took up model aircraft again I told Lindsay I would never fly RC again and stick solely to Free Flight. Herewith a 40 year old Amigo 2 I bought second hand and revamped. I stripped off the old solarfilm, extensively repaired the bare air-frame, re covered it in tissue, then put an old two channel radio into it. Flies beautifully. Lindsay got some fine shots, static and aerial [more pics 009-017]. Enjoy.
AndyCoutts : Amigo II : 31/03/2017

A few more of Stiletto in flight [more pics 009, 010].
AndyCoutts : Stiletto : 31/03/2017

[Following the comment above, we asked David if he had any photos of the RAF BE2e. This is his response.] The model is no oil painting having been built long ago, flown once or twice, then stored for years before I got hold of it. It's covered in dyed silk, the original water-slide transfers have started to disintegrate and fuel has soaked the upper wing centre section where the exhaust pipes discharge their effluent. However, all of my club colleagues are in love with it and it looks very nice in the air. A few more tweaks on the throttle assembly and carburettor and it will be a delight to fly. Here are some pictures taken last summer when it was still very unstable [more pics 003-006]. I am building one of my own and will ensure that the c/g is at the mid-point of the observer's cabin before attempting to fly it. Ken McDonough's free flight version has the centre of gravity above the observer's cockpit so why Roy Scott's has it so far to the rear is beyond me.
DavidDavis : RAF BE2e : 30/03/2017

Another goal is to build a model from a different country. So far I have UK, Germany, USA, Turkey, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, France, Zimbabwe, South Africa, and Japan. Herewith Stiletto, an Italian tow line glider, static and airborne [more pics 003-008].
AndyCoutts : Stiletto : 30/03/2017

Hi Mary/Steve - On each tour to site I try and build one of each type of free flight model (rubber, I/C, and glider). Herewith Wild Goose static and airborne [more pics 006-011]. Thanks to Lindsay for the lovely job.
AndyCoutts : Wild Goose : 30/03/2017

Hi Mary/Steve - I was home on the weekend so Lindsay was able to photograph my latest projects scratch built from Oz plans. Poor weather prevented aerial photos of the Swallow last time out. Herewith some airborne shots including the prop falling to the ground [more pics 007-010].
AndyCoutts : Swallow : 30/03/2017

Today, 29th March 2017, turned out to be something of a red letter day. There was virtually no wind and it was tee shirt weather in La Creuse. I took the BE2e to the strip for the first time since adding nearly 500 grammes of lead under the OS 70 FL. Long story short, we replaced the propeller with a 14x6 and took off with my friend Roger Aubard on the buddy box, but he wasn't on the buddy box, I gave him control from the outset! He's a Mode 1 pilot and I'm Mode 2. I'm not a bad pilot but Roger once finished tenth in the French national championships and I'm not that standard! The model took off and just required a small amount of down trim. Then I took control and proceeded to do a series of eights before handing back control to Roger for the landing. The engine cut on the landing approach and the model nosed over in the grass but there was no damage. We need to make a few adjustments to improve the low speed running of the engine but the extra weight has made all the difference. The c/g as shown on the plan is simply wrong! It should be at the mid-point of the observer's cockpit. I'm looking forward to flying it again soon! Happy Landings!
DavidDavis : RAF BE2e : 30/03/2017

Some photos of an Aerostar 20 that I built [more pics 003, 004].
RobR : Aero-Star 20 : 29/03/2017

Here's my STARTER without lining [more pics 006]. Very cheap to build, less than 10 pounds. 2 weeks of work. A nice hobby.
JulienVermeire : Starter : 29/03/2017

Picture is my fuselage and tail of the STARTER [more pics 005]. Today I build the left wing of the starter.
JulienVermeire : Starter : 29/03/2017

Photos of my Wildfire that I built last year [more pics 005, 006].
RobR : Wildfire : 27/03/2017

I finish building the Pete-E, a plan I found on your website, two weeks ago and had a successful maiden flight today. I did some modifications, but it just flies amazing. [See more pics 003-007.]
JannikLukat : Pete-E : 27/03/2017

I'm glad to see the Cirrus Graupner plan on Outerzone. Cirrus is from 1968, see picture, world champion 1968 [more pics 006]. Here are my three Cirrus gliders, two white and one yellow [more pics 007-009]. My three gliders, built in 1973, have more than 1000 flights, without one crash. The Cirrus flies 100 meters with a hand start.
JulienVermeire : Cirrus : 27/03/2017

This affliction, named model aviation, seems to infect primarily the male of our species, usually at a young age. I don't pretend to know the reason why. When a group of young boys plays outdoors one will invariably be looking up at the sky. His interest may be a passing bird, an aircraft or just a cloud. He will be your future aviation modeler! You have new insight on what drives us when we lock ourselves away in our work places for hours on end. We aren't hiding from you! We turn the flat, two dimensional plan into a three dimensional object that can soar into those clouds and fly with those birds. I bet you never imagined the power in the thousands of plans coming to your inbox? When our creations are complete the ultimate test awaits. Will it fly? After a forty year hiatus from modeling, termed life happening, I find modeling still holds the old thrill. The fingers and eyes don't quite work the same and the models take a bit longer to create but when they are done I am still that young kid again.
theshadow : Viewpoint 8 : 25/03/2017

Using CAD and assuming that the drawing for the Druine Turbulent is to correct scale, the wing span is 21.11". The wing panel on the right of the drawing is correct then add the center panel, and mirror the right, gives you 21.11". There are no material size callouts as if this were a reduction of slightly larger drawing resulting in odd material sizes. Making it difficult to build as drawn.
rchopper56 : Druine Turbulent : 25/03/2017

Please note that on this plan the port wing is shorter by one bay than the starboard wing.
anon : Druine Turbulent : 24/03/2017

Hi, after a few very busy weeks, I can send you some photos on this occasion of the Northrop F5 of Modelhob [more pics 004, 005].
AntonioRG : Northrop F-5 : 24/03/2017

Hi Steve. New model, Flying Fool [We've added one of Maciej's photos as 'more pics 004'. Click on his link to see more super pics of a lovely build.]
Maciej : Flying Fool : 24/03/2017

I have included a couple of (quite bad ...) flying shots of my Bluebird [more pics 007, 008]. Yes, I did managed to fly it, CO2 engine and all!
ArnaldoCorreia : Bluebird : 24/03/2017

Hi Mary, thanks for your Viewpoint article. It's a demonstration how modelling has different aspects depending on the viewer's eye. Ciao,
Pit : Viewpoint 8 : 23/03/2017

Photo of completed Cirrus model was found online at
SteveWMD : Cirrus : 23/03/2017

Hi Mary and Steve, please find attached a couple of photos of my Poppet [more pics 003-006]. I built it as a test to see whether adding a few 1/8 sq balsa cross-braces would increase the wing's rigidity, as I wanted to cover the model with plastic film, that does not give the structure the torsional rigidity given by doped tissue. The cross-bracing was successful, for a negligible weight increase. Powered by a .049 Babe Bee I only flew it in this configuration a few times, as I hated the idea of losing the model from an engine over-run! And yes, I did try measuring the fuel I injected on the integral tank ... A couple of years later, I converted it to single channel RC, using some quite unsuitable equipment! It was in the 1980s and the then-current 'micro' Cannon systems were totally out of reach financially-wise, as I was just a student! In that guise it was reasonably successful, as at least I had a 'fighting chance' of preventing it flying away! The model still exists, so I am toying with the idea of recuperating it, this time using electric power and mini RC gear - 'mini' gear that, as old hands know, is *smaller and lighter* than what passed as 'micro-gear' in Cannon's heyday! Best regards,
ArnaldoCorreia : Poppet : 22/03/2017

There were two KK Outlaws. The RC Sport/Trainer that you have [on Outerzone] is the second one. The earlier (first) Outlaw is the one Bill is looking for. I attach a photo of the original kit box top (one of my rarest kits!) [more pics 004].
BrianC : Outlaw : 22/03/2017

I think Mary's piece raises a really good point, (which definitely strikes a chord with me). Aero modelling has a history too. I've always loved full-sized aircraft and the stories that surround them, but by and large the stories are other people's stories who have often lived through a period (that mercifully most of us haven't had to). I'm never likely to be a skilled aero engineer or to know what it's like to fly a Spitfire or to be responsible for navigating across the oceans, but these stories from those that have are fascinating precisely because of that. I do know however just how much fun it is to have an idea and then to make a unique flying machine and see how the art, the building and the fun of flying it pans out! String a few experiences of this together over the years and the models and the characters that you have shared the interest with become history too - and now thanks to the chance of obtaining plans for pretty much everything old and new, the opportunities are almost limitless. Throw in affordable technology too and we're all winners. What a great hobby - there's something for everyone :)
MartinAppleby : Viewpoint 8 : 22/03/2017

Agree with your view. I love the older stories ... not that many books, sadly. A great read from a clubmate from my past ..."Tales from an Ancient Modeler". Adventures in transporting giant free flight models on overpacked NY subway and bus service ... to the early days of RC with its gimmicks and gadgets that annoyed models to turns and various akro's. Thanks for sharing the fun of aero modeling!
rtc : Viewpoint 8 : 21/03/2017

Hi Steve. Having built the KK Pirate and recently the KK Bandit, I would have liked to complete the trio with the original KK Outlaw.The design I remember is not the same as the one on your site.The design I remember has a polyhedral wing configuration. Please don't view this email as being critical as your site is beyond wonderful. Best wishes to all your team,
BillBollands : Outlaw : 21/03/2017

I am progressing with the Custom Privateer build and am beginning to get interested in powering it. I see some posts which talk about electric motors. I would like to get in touch with anyone who has successfully used electric to learn what they used. Never have done electric. Also, would like to communicate with anyone about the RC aspect - servo placement, push rods, etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
DonBuck : Custom Privateer : 20/03/2017

Hello! I did some photos of the Comet's Security Sport 10 inch! [more pics 003-008] I never built something so small ... ;) It was more difficult than I thought because I never did a tissue covering in a airmodel with this size before. Thanks for the site and I will support you guys. From Sao Paulo, Brazil.
EldonMasini : Security Sport : 20/03/2017

Hi Steve, Here is a picture of my Carl Goldberg Jr Falcon I have just completed [more pics 003]. I used the original plan from Outerzone. Regards,
PaulBizard : Jr Falcon : 20/03/2017

Attached photos of Comet kit Aeronca K, built by me around 1980 [more pics 003-006].
Pit : Aeronca K Seaplane : 20/03/2017

i am just starting and it would be nice to have the build instructions if there is any.
jmccoulrc1 : Ultra-Fly : 20/03/2017

Ahem. Quote: - "Uses the Midwest foam Wing and stabilizer"
SteveWMD : Hoosier Hot-Shot : 19/03/2017

where is the wing plan?
anon : Hoosier Hot-Shot : 19/03/2017

El Camino box image [more pics 003], thanks to Pit.
Mary : El Camino : 17/03/2017

Thanks, fixed now.
SteveWMD : Little Plank : 15/03/2017

When printed at full size the 6 inch scale bar only measures 5 3/4 inches and the overall span is 54in. I suggest a further enlargement of about 1.0435 is required to achieve a full scale plan.
anon : Little Plank : 15/03/2017

The Whiz Kid is Owen's predecessor of the RCM Ace Whizard , but used a molded foam wing and stabilizer set that was made by Midwest Manufacturing. I think Midwest produced a kit of this plane for a time. Not 100% positive of that, but I know they made a couple of .049 size aircraft using that wing and tail.
dfritzke : Whiz Kid : 15/03/2017

Hi Steve, Looks like Joe Bridi's Super Kaos.
EhsanM : El Camino : 14/03/2017

Nice one Pat, that's a very pretty plane.
SteveWMD : Cessna Bird Dog : 14/03/2017

Model Aviation Magazine September 1979 Imitation article can be found here: and and a follow up on October 1979 here:
GeorgeAlbo : Imitation : 14/03/2017

Hi Steve/Mary, Thank you for a great site - I still spend far too many hours on it!! Further to my notes about my building and flying the Kaman Helicopter - my brother found a photo of it - from nearly 1/2 a century ago!! [more pics 003]
VinceDay : Kaman Helicopter : 13/03/2017

Thanks to Pit for confirmation on this one.
SteveWMD : Solar : 13/03/2017

Back in the early sixties, I lusted after the Stormer, popular with the Mobile club at the time. There was no way I could afford the required reed radio set it used, and my only building area was a drawing board in a bedroom shared with my brother, restricting my efforts to small single channel models. Club member Gene Mathis always had at least one Stormer ready to fly and another in progress. It flew soooo much better than most of the ARF stuff we see now. But Spreng has another claim to fame. He invented the servo circuit we still use today, developed for his Digicon system, the first commercially available digital radio. He never patented the circuit and all the rest of the radio systems immediately copied his idea. The basic idea has not changed in 50 years. You can take his original servo, change the plug and center-tapped battery, and it will work perfectly in a modern receiver, no need to adjust the centering. If I can find a few more round tuits, I'll have to finally build a Stormer.
DougSmith : Flattop Stormer : 12/03/2017

I agree with the above comments. The Whimpy is one of the best ever, especially when fitted with an OS 26 Surpass and a 10x4 APC propeller.
RobR : Whimpy : 12/03/2017

Steve, this is built from your Eric Fearnley Bird Dog plan [more pics 004]. Thanks,
PatO'D : Cessna Bird Dog : 12/03/2017

This model is almost identical to the Midwest Strikemaster, also featured on your site [see oz5985] but the Midwest version, no longer available, had a foam wing. That's a big problem these days, as most of the foam available is "recycled". That means they throw their scraps into the next batch, causing hard lumps that won't cut right. "Virgin" foam is not easy to find. What all this means is, if you want a Strikemaster but can't find a foam wing, build this one instead, ribs are on the plan. I flew the Strikemaster back in the day and it does fly very well.
DougSmith : Jet-40 : 10/03/2017

Unfortunately I do not have a plan of the larger one I built. It was around 50 years ago! However you'll find exactly what you're looking for if you check out the plan High Speed Delta.
ChrisPinn : XC4 from Contest Kits : 10/03/2017

Thank you to Peter for uploading the Delphine plan! The Delphine was my first attempt at an r/c glider many years ago. I had a new (at that time), Sanwa 2 chl set which I jammed in for rudder/elevator. Since the receiver, batt & servos were too big for the available space (not to mention my skills were lacking as well!), I laid the servos on their sides and had the complete output arms sticking outside the fuselage sides (!) with piano wire pushrods running down each side ..... not a very pretty arrangement but it worked. I couldn't fly at the time either, so the poor old Delphine had a rough and short life, poor thing! I have been looking for a copy of this plan for years so that I could build another one for old times sake, and perhaps this time it will have a happy and long flying life! Plus, this time all of the gear will be inside ... where it should be! Anyway, thank you again to Peter for uploading and thanks to you as well for keeping this fabulous site running for all of us to enjoy, great job!!
MarkStanley : Delphine : 10/03/2017

I built a third Caprice in December last year for a modelling friend who has put micro RC in it. Please find attached photos, the yellow and black one belongs to Rodney [more pics 025, 026]. Unfortunately the wind was too strong on flight day so neither model has flown off the tow line.
AndyCoutts : Caprice : 10/03/2017

Here are some pictures of my Bandido that I just completed [more pics 003, 004]. I really love your website, I have two more planes in progress, will send more pictures soon.
DonavanDailing : Bandido : 10/03/2017

I built this plane in 1957 for my first National Competition (Yankee Championships, North Weymouth Naval Air Station MA). Lost it on the first timed flight in a strong thermal despite the DT working. Got a call 2 months later from someone who had found it (minus stab), wanted $20 for it. Told him it cost $3 to build,keep it! and hung up. Now I will build another one. Still trying to figure out what the airfoil is. No known section looks like it! Stan uses a similar section in the international winning PAA Plane he built with (and specified) the same sharp edged airfoil for! I placed 2nd in 1/2A FF with the RAMROD 250 I built at the same time. Moved out of the Massachusetts area to New York and did not fly again till Grad school at age 47! I still had (and still have) the 1957 built Ram Rod 250 and fly it occasionally... soooo, Thank you... Is the rest of the MAN article on the SANTANITA still available? I still have the Model Airplane News issue with the Ram Rod 250 Plan in it!
PeterBecker : Santanita : 10/03/2017

I have recently built the Swallow, a rubber powered coupe de hiver model by Ian Dowsett [more pics 003-006].
AndyCoutts : Swallow : 09/03/2017

Weather was not on my side last time I was home, so flying and photographing were curtailed. However, I do have a picture of the Marauder in the ditch [more pics 016].
AndyCoutts : Marauder : 09/03/2017

A few more photos from the archives [more pics 006, 007]. Mercury Aeronca Sedan: I converted the free flight kit to RC.
AndyCoutts : Aeronca Sedan : 09/03/2017

Hi Mary and Steve...Wow,a C/L model from the Great Hollywood Movie & Stunt Pilot Mr Paul Mantz...Never seen before...Very nice...Cheers
Pascal : Paul Mantz Special : 08/03/2017

Hi Mary, Steve, I looked up Paul Mantz and found a rather interesting, though tragic, ending story: and For the alcoholic part of this, maybe the Wikipedia entry is probably the fairer one. And, of course, thanks for your work.
Hubert : Paul Mantz Special : 08/03/2017

Today's first flight with Delphine, fly excellent. A pleasure to fly. Photo: motor above wing [more pics 007].
JulienVermeire : Delphine : 07/03/2017

Hi - here's another K8B by Svenson [more pics 007]. Got it from a good friend. New cockpit made, that was not there. Again covered with Oracover.
JulienVermeire : K 8B : 07/03/2017

Btw, my friend now informs me that he remembered that you needed to tension the elevator (so it lied flat) with an old English penny !
JimP : XC4 from Contest Kits : 02/03/2017

Many thanks to RFJ for findng the Roma ad in Aeromodeller [see morepics 003].
SteveWMD : Roma : 02/03/2017

Please find attached the article of the Kyushu J7W1 Shinden by Don Srull (oz1924), found online on the same link [supplementary file]. Best regards, from France !
Yannick : Shinden : 01/03/2017

Hi all, Great site, I look at it everyday for new plans! Please find attached an image of a recent Thermic 18 I built [more pics 003]. Probably one of the best plan-built gliders I have built to date; nice and simple construction and flight characteristics are great. Will be making more!!
EdM : Thermic 18 : 01/03/2017

Wow, have you got the plan of the enlarged version? The plan does not show the rubber band that pulls up the elevator when flying speed drops down from insane fast!! That is a key feature of course, along with the hinge. But it is shown on the picture. My friend had one back in 1965 in the UK, it is so fast and small that we lost it! So a really bright colour scheme is worthwhile, don't leave as clear doped balsa as we did. Cheers,
JimP : XC4 from Contest Kits : 01/03/2017

Another minor error is the submitter labeled two F-9 formers when the wider of the two is actually F-8 as shown in the cutaway.
EdShearer : Northrop F-61 Black Widow : 28/02/2017

Miss Norway MkII, built from RCMplans, K&B 61 engine, Futaba radio, (1985) [more pics 004].
JesusAbellan : Miss Norway MkII : 28/02/2017

Senior Falcon on floats, built from Goldberg kit, K&B 61 engine, Futaba radio, (1983) [more pics 004].
JesusAbellan : Senior Falcon : 28/02/2017

Cessna Skylane 62 on floats, built from Goldberg kit, ST 46 engine, flaps, Kraft radio, (1975) [more pics 003].
JesusAbellan : Cessna Skylane 62 : 28/02/2017

Big Otto, built from Scientific kit, Cox Golden Bee .049 engine, (1975) [more pics 004].
JesusAbellan : Big Otto : 28/02/2017

Hi Mary and Steve, I have the Delphine built in 28 days [more pics 003-006]. The Delphine is the first RC glider from Svenson. As I started, he was not yet on OUTER ZONE. In 1973 one could get there but 1 servo in. Now that's a full RC glider with altitude and rudder. Flight ready 250 grams., 200 grams less than in 1973. I have to test him, but the weather is too bad now.
JulienVermeire : Delphine : 28/02/2017

After enlarging the tracings, I think the submitter made a typo. The engine mounts should be 3/8 inch hardwood or plywood as evidenced by the slots of S-1,-2, and -3. I verified this by checking the remains of my Eureka B-26. Also, 3/16 would be too weak for a .35{5.7} engine.
EdShearer : Northrop F-61 Black Widow : 28/02/2017

This plan (and article) is in the July 1945 Model Airplane News.
George : Flapper : 28/02/2017

Hello Mary and Steve, I'm sending you photos of various models we have built (my father and I), in the last century. [Here is the] Wayfarer, built from Svenson kit, Meteor 60 engine, Kraft radio, (1974) [more pics 011-014]. Thank you very much for your great site! Greetings from Spain.
JesusAbellan : Wayfarer : 27/02/2017

Dandy, built from Graupner kit, Cox Tee Dee .051 engine, Futaba 2ch radio, (1974) [more pics 009].
JesusAbellan : Dandy : 27/02/2017

Sky Master, built from Scientific kit (1967) [more pics 005, 006].
JesusAbellan : Sky-Master : 27/02/2017

Tipsy Junior, built from Air Trails plans, Webra Mach I engine, (1954) [more pics 003, 004].
JesusAbellan : Tipsy Junior : 27/02/2017

Hello, to complement your plan I'm sending images of my model Classy Gassie 1947 [model photo & more pics 003-013]. The model I built according to the plan on Outerzone. I installed the engine Letmo 2,5 ccm diessel/1947 replica MP JET 2015/. The model will be published on Thanks for a nice plan. Best regards from Pilsen, Czech Republic.
KarelSlupsky : Classy Gassie : 27/02/2017

The Sophisticated Lady uses the same wing as the Electra - the electric version of the Gentle Lady [here on Outerzone: Electra_oz6614]. Both the Sophisticated Lady and Electra have more wing sheeting and internal bracing than the Gentle Lady. The Gentle Lady wing may well serve on the Sophisticated Lady, but it would not stand up to quite as much aerobatic stress, being more lightly built. That being said, the wing airfoil shapes and plan form of all 3 versions remain the same. Perhaps when I get to building my kit of the Sophisticated Lady I will trace all the wing ribs individually. In the meantime, someone else might be able to provide wing rib shapes? Cheers,
Rudy : Sophisticated Lady : 27/02/2017

Plan distributed by R.U.N.A. wich stand for Royal Union for National Aeronautic (when Italy was a Kingdom until 1946). This organ promoted Aeronautic and Aeromodelling among the Youths through schools and courses of aeromodelling in the main Italian cities. Many Italian modellers started their activity thanks to R.U.N.A. Plan of 1942 by illegible designer at the moment.
Pit : Runa Modello B : 26/02/2017

I see the formers are incomplete on this plan. I seem to remember that the Soph. Lady uses the same wing as the Gentle Lady. One of the plans for the Gentle Lady on your site has the formers.
IngeFast : Sophisticated Lady : 26/02/2017

The young man in the photo looks like he could easily be Douglas Bader Jr! Couldn't pass that one up.
BillG : Venom : 26/02/2017

Thanks Pit.
SteveWMD : OF-C : 25/02/2017

by G. Cattaneo - Italy - semi-scale model glider.
Pit : OF-C : 25/02/2017

No rib or fuselage formers.
anon : Jr Nobler : 25/02/2017

Photo of completed Kane model was found online at
SteveWMD : Kane : 25/02/2017

Pleased to say that I have downloaded the Construction notes for the Mercury, thank you again. I was wondering if to go with the plans there was a material list required to build this model otherwise I will have to get pencil and paper and a rubber to work it all out. Many thanks again for all of your help.
JimHarris : Mercury IV : 24/02/2017

Hi Steve. We took the peanut "Grey Ghost" pusher drawing and scaled it up to 19.5" for mini RC with a shaft driven BL180 and it flies fantastic, very quick and agile. Not content to leave well enough alone, we then scaled it to 82" with Rotomax 50cc equiv. (also shaft driven) on 12 Lipo cells spinning a 24 X8. She came in at 17lbs. 8oz. and flies just like the little one, fast and smooth [more pics 005, 006].
AlandChris : Grey Ghost : 24/02/2017

House established in Rome by Aldo and Peppe, i.e. Aldo Rossetti (Cenerente-PG) and Giuseppe Pesaresi (Terni). Both were modelers in Guidonia Airport, to work at the Wind Gallery. During the morning they used to work in Guidonia, while in the afternoon they used to open the 'shop' (Aeromodelli), established in 1941 and placed in Rome at Piazza Salerno, 8. This little shop still exists today but at the end of the nineties was sold and converted into model trains shop. It is noticeable the fact that all the 'big' Italian houses of the time have been established by 'true' modelers: Adriano Castellani-Aviomodelli (Cremona), Franco Conte- Aeropiccola (Torino), Uberto Travagli-Aviominima (Roma), Gustavo Clerici-Movo (Milano), or, like in this case by technicians: "Aldo e Peppe"- Aeromodelli (Roma).
Pit : CAB-1 : 23/02/2017

Thanks, amended now :)
Mary : CB 33 : 22/02/2017

The quoted wingspan of 24 inches is actually the length (Longueur=0.60 m) Wingspan (Envergure) is 1.10 m or 43.3 inches. Best modelling regards.
JMP : CB 33 : 22/02/2017

Well, I never - I have a very passing acquaintance with the full-sized 'G-ADKK'. When I worked at Lincs Aerial Spraying in the late '80s this aeroplane belonged to the boss, a Mr. Cliff Aniss. Cliff had been a Lancaster pilot during the war and I heard a story that he had baled out and that his parachute had either not opened, or had only partially opened during his descent and that that only the fortunate intervention of soft pine trees and deep snow had saved him. The G-ADKK was immaculate - the paintwork shone and the interior was trimmed in a crushed blue velvet material with a varnished wood instrument panel and door cappings - when you opened the door, you could smell varnish and avgas ! Happy days ("nostalgia isn't what it used to be" as they say ...)
MartinAppleby : DH.87B Hornet Moth : 22/02/2017

I have build one like this CB-33 and can assure you it will not fly with the wing angled as show on the plan. This is not the only CB that has an angle of attack so huge on the plan - the 31 has the same, it is a larger version of the 33. I am slightly mystified why it's drawn in this way. Do others share my experience and care to enlighten the situation or share experiences if they have build one ?
Anon : CB 33 : 22/02/2017

I think this is an early version of the Delphine plan. The brochure (and the 1973-4 catalogue entry) say the Delphine plan includes power pod option for Cox engine, and also full single servo RC installation details. These do not appear on this (earlier?) plan. Maybe there is a copy of the later plan out there somewhere?
SteveWMD : Delphine : 22/02/2017

Hello Steve and Mary, I found the explosion view of the Lanzet [see supplementary file]. Found it here:
DriesNeyrinck : Lanzet : 20/02/2017

Here is a photo from my Veron Verosonic project [more pics 004]. It's me combining hobbies, photography and model airplanes. Used an old expired film, probably expired 10 years ago, and a cheap camera to make this photo. Aim was make a photo that looks like if I had done it in the early 70s, and it worked, it looks just like a print from those days. Did now what I did not do then, never seen this kit at the time and often did not make photos of what I did build. It's much fun to do it now like this.
Anon : Verosonic : 20/02/2017

Many thanks alcalaino :) Colin Usher's site seems to have disappeared. I have noticed that all our links to his site are broken. Does anyone know what has happened?
Mary : Mercury IV : 20/02/2017

I have attached a brief document by Colin Usher with a few building instructions [see supplementary 'Construction' file] found some time ago at (this link seems to be dead now). I hope Jim finds it useful.
alcalaino : Mercury IV : 20/02/2017

We have the original magazine article, but it doesn't contain any building info. Can anyone help Jim?
Mary : Mercury IV : 19/02/2017

Hello, I have the plan and a laser cut kit of parts for this model but was wondering if you had by any chance any building instructions for the lovely model.
JimHarris : Mercury IV : 19/02/2017

Here as promised on RC Groups is a 1200 dpi scan of the Brooks Biplane from Aeromodeller November 1952 [see supplementary file 'original_page_scan_1200dpi']. This is really just for completeness.
RogerC41 : Brooks Biplane : 17/02/2017

Hi - won my first power comp with the Dream Weaver at E.M.A rally in 1957 [more pics 006]. Still have the trophy.
JohnBorrill : Dream Weaver IX : 17/02/2017

I started building these from the 1929 Modern Boy Aeroplane plan last weekend while waiting for a snowstorm to clear [more pics 003]. Replacing the card wings with foam made the model lighter and fly more reliably. As soon as it warms up outside, I'll find out how long they can stay up for.
DougRobertson : 1929 Modern Boy Aeroplane : 17/02/2017

See my Ugly Stik currently under construction [more pics 010, 011], lightened up a little for electric power, still the same size as the original, built as a low wing tail dragger. Tail feathers are covered with Doculam at this stage, not yet painted, airframe weight at 1 lb 3 oz, hope to meet completed target weight of 4 lbs. I expect this version to last longer than my last Stik, which fluttered apart, unable to withstand the thrust of a honkin' Kraft 61. At the time this model was designed, few 61 engines were available, and the ones that were, weighed a lot less and had less power than the present crop. I think a good 46 would be ample power if the weight didn't get out of control. My electric motor should be about the same as an average 40 but able to pull a bigger prop. Stay tuned for more pix as the project continues.
DougSmith : Das Ugly Stik : 17/02/2017

I have an original RN Kit of the Avro Mk IV by Chuck West originally kitted by Peterson Products (which is how you show it on Outerzone). It included a two-page instructions as well as ... very important ... a sheet not on the plans with all the wire parts patterns. I also scanned the ribs and fuselage parts for you [see supplementary file].
JonPutnam : Avro Mk.IV Triplane 1910 : 16/02/2017

Following Don's request, Eduardo got in touch to share his construction photos. See Don's post above - but ignore the date. This all happened in December 2016, it's just taken me ages to get round to writing this post. My apologies to Eduardo for taking so long to say thank you and share his photos with the wider Outerzone community. There are too many (79!) to add all the pictures here, but I thought you'd like to see the following selection [more pics 008-026]. As you can see, Eduardo did a fine job: great photos of a lovely build.
Mary : Custom Privateer : 16/02/2017

Received the pictures from Eduardo! I just can't believe my good fortune in finding you folks and that you found someone who did such an excellent job of documenting his progress. Makes me so glad that I had not started this project till this fall. I had got that sheet out many times and wondered just how to go about it. Kept it with me during my several moves with my company. Computers and the internet have changed it all so much.
DonBuck : Custom Privateer : 16/02/2017

I think you're right. Checking to compare width and height of the main wheel, it does look distorted.
SteveWMD : Cessna Skylane 62 : 16/02/2017

This plans are manipulated in such way that the dimensions horizontally are good but vertically are wrong it needs to adjust vertically 10% bigger.
anon : Cessna Skylane 62 : 16/02/2017

Hi Steve, if you are keen, one/some of these photos could accompany the Lancer 45 plan we have recently added [more pics 003-008]. Hopefully some more of these great little models will be built. I notice other photos of the 45 I have found show the high thrust line version like my latest. The only low thrust version photo with the upright motor and like this plan seems to be my 60 inch one. The picture with the two of them side by side tells the story [more pics 008]. I have seen ads for the 49 showing an inverted high thrust version but the plan doesn't talk about it. It shows low only. The 72 plan shows high thrust line but says it can be low thrust line upright if you want. My conclusion is that Lancers were always intended to be high or low thrust line at the builder's discretion. In my case I prefer the low thrust line but it was not practical on my little Lancer due to prop clearance considerations so it has a more conventional looking high thrust line. They look great in whatever version.
AllanK1 : Lancer 45 : 15/02/2017

Gerne mochte ich meine Bilder von Plan ID170, Jupiter von Comet, mit euch teilen [more pics 004, 005]. Danke fur eure tolle Arbeit. [I would like to share with you my pictures of Plan ID170, Jupiter by Comet. Thank you for your great work.]
AndreasKoch : Jupiter : 15/02/2017

Hello - Super job you guys are doing. Have just built a Dream Weaver from your plan to copy one flown by a friend in the early 60s. His was ETA 29 powered whilst mine is electric and RC. Photos attached [more pics 003-005].
RichardS : Dream Weaver IX : 15/02/2017

Two better pics of the Miss 38 [more pics 008, 009].
patzpaint : Miss 38 : 15/02/2017

Hi Steve and Mary, I have included some pictures of my KK Scorpion, built in 2002 and still in one piece, albeit with loose U/C fittings and a rather oily front end [more pics 004-009]. In its time it has been powered by an ED series 2 "Bee", AM 10 and AM 15 engines. Although a bit of a "builder's" model it is well worth the effort and makes a great flyer.
DickEdwards : Scorpion : 13/02/2017

Right - the plan and the cutting sheet are from two different versions of the Veron model. The plan (same as mine) has only three longerons on the sides of the fuselage. I think a later, slimmer, version. If you look at the cutting sheet, the side formers ( f13, f14, f15) have five slots, there are two more longerons on this version. So, an apology, the widths are correct for the cutting sheet. But the plan is the wrong one - it matches my kit and is itself wrong because it doesn't take in the narrower, obviously cheaper fuselage. Anyway - I bought the kit from a charity shop for 2 pounds and have really enjoyed building my first model in 45 years!
RayWilkinson : Sopwith Triplane : 13/02/2017

Thanks Pit.
SteveWMD : Eoletto : 13/02/2017

This is the Italianized version of "37in Wing Span Glider" on OZ and originally from Model Airplane News 1935. The more about the saga of these plans in the near SAM Clarion newsletter article by me and Roy Tiller. Eoletto is the diminutive of Eolo, God of the Wind.
Pit : Eoletto : 13/02/2017

Hi Mary and Steve. Custom Cavalier 108 (ID:335) built in the "Escuela Central de Aeromodelismo", Madrid, 1947 [more pics 003-005]. OK Twin engine and homemade radio. This was one of the first RC models built in Spain. These photos were published in the Spanish magazine "AVION" (1947). The quality is not very good, but it is the best thing that I've been able to get :) Saludos from Spain.
JesusAbellan : Custom Cavalier 108 : 12/02/2017

Hi Mary /Steve, here is a photo of the Veron Verosonic for the plan page of the same [model photo and more pic 003]. I am restoring this one using the plan from Outerzone.
Anon : Verosonic : 12/02/2017

Hello again - two pictures. One shows the lower struts cut from the plan and laid on top of the corresponding strut on the plane. The other shows the plan laid on the centre section. They don't fit because the measurements are taken from the side view, not the narrower plan view which is not shown.
RayWilkinson : Sopwith Triplane : 11/02/2017

I have just built the model and the plan is incorrect. I didn't discover it until after had cut the lower cross struts using the plan. Try measuring the formers above - you'll see what I mean. The width of the centre section is dictated by the distance between the struts which are glued to the inside of the fuselage longerons just forward of the cockpit. Again, it is too wide by 6mm. The fuselage ain't square - which it would be if you used the cross strut lengths on the plan. Look at the pictures - I have just done it. Sorry to be a pain but if you want to prove it - build it yourself.
RayWilkinson : Sopwith Triplane : 11/02/2017

The bends are clearly shown in the isometric drawing, besides which it also says on the plan 'crack longerons here and re-cement' at F8. Not only that but the original post (from Ray) was saying that the front section had the problem and not the rear.
Daithi : Sopwith Triplane : 11/02/2017

Just viewed the Youtube video of the Shuttleworth Collection and about 11 minutes in is a video of the Triplane ( The long edge of the stab is to the rear. Just ahead of the triplane was the video of the Pup, and it had the long edge to the front. Both aircraft were flying ...
BillH : Sopwith Triplane : 11/02/2017

Herewith 2 photos of the Luton Minor for you, Eric Fearnley, ID 397 [more pics 003, 004].
BryanLea : Luton Minor : 10/02/2017

The problem comes from the fact that Veron do not show the fuselage from the top so it could become clear that there is not only a crack of the longerons at F8 but also a crack or bend at F11. This is clear on the top view on plan 3028 also a triplane. Then it is clear that the length of the lower cross struts are correct.
Karsten : Sopwith Triplane : 10/02/2017

Just for fun I opened the pdfs in windows and physically measured them (at 100%) - cross struts and former widths were identical, as was the 'rudder' from plan and printwood. There was no discrepancy that I could find. It's possible that the error crept in during printing. A quick check should have the printwood (the lower section does show the corners) to be exactly 12 inches long (all Veron and KK kits were made from a single sheet of 32" x 3" x 1/16" balsa). Comparing the 'rudder line' on both printwood and plan would also show up any discrepancy. As I said earlier, the original kit didn't have a problem so it has to be something that has come along in either the scanning or printing. Regarding the tail - the change was mainly a field modification. From Profile number 73 "...The revised tail surfaces were shorter in span by 2 ft. 1 in. and had a total area of 23.6 sq, ft. ...Some aircraft still had the original tail surfaces in June 1917...". As it's generally better to have a larger tail area, in this case staying as per the plan may be a better idea. Of course for anyone wanting something different, there's always the 'Sopwith Mouse' aka Alcock A1, which had the forward fuselage and lower wing of a triplane, the upper wing from a Pup and the tailplane of a Camel (with a home-brew fin and rudder).
Daithi : Sopwith Triplane : 09/02/2017

Hello to you up there from down here. My aeromodelling began around 1952 when I lived in the UK. My first attempt, an Auster Arrow flying scale series from KeilKraft. I always longed for the day I could afford to buy the larger kits but only managed to build the Pirate using a second hand E D Baby purchased by mail order from Bud Morgan in Cardiff for 26/-. Your site has been a wonderful discovery for me and I thank you beyond measure for it. I am sending you this recently completed Bandit photo [more pics 005]. It is electric powered and covered in the old fashioned way with fabric and doped. I have used the iron on stuff but I still like the satisfaction of watching the material shrink and the drumskin texture when complete. Regards from New Zealand.
BillBollands : Bandit : 08/02/2017

I have more photos that you may like to post [more pics 009-011]. First photo is one of scale just to show you how big the Horten 229 is. The second one is the underside of the Horten.
LarryWelle : Horten Ho-IX : 08/02/2017

I have attached a photo of my RCM Small Wonder [more pics 003]. It was my first scratch build. About 1985.
ScottBlack : Small Wonder : 08/02/2017

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